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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #45 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:19pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

Because they don't want to work with Australia. Isn't it obvious??

Why should they support boat turn-backs? Hw does it serve them to keep taking Australia's rejects?

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Reply #46 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #47 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #48 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:57pm

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

How about Indonesia tighten up their borders. Have you noticed that they are all Muslims coming out of Indonesia. It's because Indonesia have travel arrangements with Muslim countries for Muslim pilgrimages like Mecca. How about getting with the times??

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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #49 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

OUR rejects??? It is in fact THEIR rejects.

And their right to protest is not being questioned, nor is our right to reject their protests.

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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #50 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:02pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

OUR rejects??? It is in fact THEIR rejects.

And their right to protest is not being questioned, nor is our right to reject their protests.

Turned back from Australian waters. Our rejects.

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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #51 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:17pm

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

OUR rejects??? It is in fact THEIR rejects.

And their right to protest is not being questioned, nor is our right to reject their protests.

Turned back from Australian waters. Our rejects.

As usual, you are a stupid person as only a truly stupid person would say something so monumentally... stupid.

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Reply #52 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:22pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

OUR rejects??? It is in fact THEIR rejects.

And their right to protest is not being questioned, nor is our right to reject their protests.

Turned back from Australian waters. Our rejects.

As usual, you are a stupid person as only a truly stupid person would say something so monumentally... stupid.

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Reply #53 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:28pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

OUR rejects??? It is in fact THEIR rejects.

And their right to protest is not being questioned, nor is our right to reject their protests.

Turned back from Australian waters. Our rejects.

As usual, you are a stupid person as only a truly stupid person would say something so monumentally... stupid.

Are you trying to say they were not turned back from Australian waters - in fact they were probably on the beach.

Why would you accuse someone making a correct statement of being stupid ?

It is obvious were the stupid statement lay.

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Reply #55 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 6:24am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

Turned back from Australian waters. Our rejects.

As usual, you are a stupid person as only a truly stupid person would say something so monumentally... stupid.

mothra's comment is factual and all longy has to say is she's stupid because he can't handle the truth.

Whenever he/she gets cornered he/she calls 'stupid' or 'idiot' or imbecile', three words that describe him/her to a T.

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Reply #57 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 12:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:28pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

OUR rejects??? It is in fact THEIR rejects.

And their right to protest is not being questioned, nor is our right to reject their protests.

Turned back from Australian waters. Our rejects.

As usual, you are a stupid person as only a truly stupid person would say something so monumentally... stupid.

Are you trying to say they were not turned back from Australian waters - in fact they were probably on the beach.

Why would you accuse someone making a correct statement of being stupid ?

It is obvious were the stupid statement lay.

How do illegals who left from ANOTHER country become our 'rejects'? They get sent back to where the belong. You can argue the meaning of 'reject' all you like, but the point it that they are NOT our people. They are Indonesia's and they are getting them back.

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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #58 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 1:13pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:28pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

OUR rejects??? It is in fact THEIR rejects.

And their right to protest is not being questioned, nor is our right to reject their protests.

Turned back from Australian waters. Our rejects.

As usual, you are a stupid person as only a truly stupid person would say something so monumentally... stupid.

Are you trying to say they were not turned back from Australian waters - in fact they were probably on the beach.

Why would you accuse someone making a correct statement of being stupid ?

It is obvious were the stupid statement lay.

How do illegals who left from ANOTHER country become our 'rejects'? They get sent back to where the belong. You can argue the meaning of 'reject' all you like, but the point it that they are NOT our people. They are Indonesia's and they are getting them back.

a) They're not illegals.

b) They were in Australian territory which makes them our problem, rightly.

c) They are not Indonesia's people.

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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #59 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 1:51pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Indonesia should be wondering how boat loads of foreigners seem to be able to set sail out of Indonesian ports and go wherever they want. Then again, I believe they know exactly what's going on. Who cares if Indonesia is upset.

Yes indeed Double. Why should we worry if our closest neighbour is upset with us?

Be fair Mothra. Shouldn't you be criticizing Indonesia for letting boatloads of men , women and children floundering out of their ports while overloaded and then sinking??? What sort of country let's that happen?

My problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive. What has that got to do with us needing a working diplomatic relationship with them?

'relationship' is not defined as agreeing to everything they ask for. They are happy to take our aid and anything else we give them but suddenly, when we want something - like commutation of a death sentence - it is all too hard.

They need to learn how to give and take instead of just take.

I repeat, my problems with Indonesia and human rights are extensive but how does that equate to Indonesia not having the right to protest about being forced to deal with our rejects?

OUR rejects??? It is in fact THEIR rejects.

And their right to protest is not being questioned, nor is our right to reject their protests.

Nor is our right to turn around Indonesian-flagged vessels from entering our waters in question.

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