Firstly, let me state my biases -
1) I am an Atheist!
2) I am NOT a “believer”, in Politicians, from the Right, Left or Centre of politics, although a “select few” may get my nod, from time to time!

That said, I would firmly contend that Religion, ANY RELIGION, should not, must not, be allowed to “mix” with Politics.

AND, UNDER NOT CIRCUMSTANCES, CAN RELIGION, ANY RELIGION, BE ALLOWED TO USE FORCE, EITHER MENTAL OR PHYSICAL, IN ORDER TO BRING CHANGE TO THE POLITICAL ARENA!
IT SHOULD ALSO BE CLEAR THAT POLITICIANS MUST NOT USE RELIGIONS, IN ORDER TO GAIN ANY POLITICAL ADVANTAGE!

Certainly, anyone, any person, any Political &/or Religious organization, using physical force, injuring &/or Killing people, in order to gain any Political &/or Religious advantage/change, should be ostracised Publicly & Legally held accountable & the full weight of Local & Global Laws, should be brought to bear on them, by all concerned parties!

So, whatever the Religion & whatever the Political “leaning”, it’s well past time for Politicians & those in Religious organization's, to STOP THE SPIN, TO STOP DOING THINGS IN THEIR OWN SHORT TERM INTERESTS & START DOING EVERYTHING IN THE BEST, LONG TERM INTEREST OF THE WHOLE COUNTRY & INDEED THE ENTIRE PLANET!!!

Religion is now working through the state, or at least the politicians, and are conducting the war on women many assumed it had lost.

At least in the US abortion and womens health and rights have been set back hugely. So much for “separation of Church and State!”

I think politicians should be able to have whatever morals they get from their faith and be lead by that.  What I don't think should ever be allowed is to favour one religion in legislation of policy over others, like we currently do with school chaplains.

Besides, I'm confident that unlike the states, the chances of Australia electing a Noah's ark believing, evolution denying, executing the gays politician is pretty small.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 8:29pm:


AND, the same goes for Politicians!

beer wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:45pm:


This is true

beer wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:45pm:


Perhaps not ZERO influence, But everything has limits and it seems that Religion here & elsewhere has TOO MUCH INFLUENCE OVER POLITICS!

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:



That statement is naive as well as very wrong. To presume to enforce a disconnect between religion and politics is to demand that a particularly viewpoint ie religious be not permitted in public discussion. This is discriminatory at the core. Religion is a defining aspect of many people's lives and since democracy is about representing ALL people's beleifs and opinions, the call to essentially ban religion in public life is undemocratic as well as offensive.

You are entitled to demand that religion does not run roughshod over majority opinion, but you are not entitled to demand that religion be silenced.

You are quite wrong in your post.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:23am:


So Longy, no doubt you are “a believer” in your particular Religion & Political party and you would have them as doing everything correctly?

Unfortunately, it is very likely that your Religion & your Political Party is “far from perfect” & they have actually been involved in wrong doings!

There is a saying that relates “to the separation of Church & State” AND WE WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO TAKE HEED & IMPLEMENT THAT SAYING.

In fact, Religions & Politicians have certainly been involved in a great many wrong doings, including being the catalyst for many wars.

It is about time, We brought an end to such Religious & Political practices, before WE get caught up in the next round of preventable stupidity!