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Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:36pm
 
According to some critics, student protesters are currently attempting to stomp out free speech in the name of political correctness. At Yale, students demanded the resignation of administrators for defending insensitive Halloween costumes. At the University of Missouri, a student shoved a reporter who was trying to cover protests. Now some students at Princeton think the elite Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs should change its name. While many have lauded these protests, others argue that students are trying to shut down differing opinions and debate.

But stifling speech isn’t a problem confined to the left. Conservatives try to shut down speech they don’t like as well–often in much more aggressive ways.

Take the case of trans writer Sarah Nyberg. Over the last year, Nyberg has been using Twitter to criticize Gamergate, a loose movement that has virulently fought against accusations of sexism in video games. Nyberg argued that Gamergate was shot through with sexism, anger, transphobia, and violence. Gamergate advocates responded by finding and revealing her name and personal information online and sending her rape and death threats. They hacked her personal server and used ten-year-old chat logs to spread baseless accusations of pedophilia.

Breitbart, a popular conservative-leaning news organization, picked up the story, publicly accusing various people who had supported Nyberg of countenancing pedophilia. “Everyone that interacted with me publicly was harassed and intimidated in the hopes they would dissociate from me,” Nyberg tells Quartz. “Many were even threatened with having their employers contacted.”

This was, in short, an organized campaign of harassment and intimidation designed to shame and silence Nyberg and anyone who supported her. She held opinions that people disliked, and so she was doxxed and virtually attacked. This is ideologically motivated online harassment. But because it was perpetuated by right-wingers, it’s rarely presented as an attack on free speech or as an overreach of political correctness.

In fact, arguments about how free speech is being endangered—especially online—are almost always directed at the left, not the right. Jonathan Chait’s viral essay about political correctness, for example, talks about how his friend Hanna Rosin was criticized by people he describes as leftist feminists. But he makes no mention of Gamergate advocates or anti-feminists who, one could argue, are also seeking to silence opinions with which they disagree.

Similarly, the Atlantic in September published a lengthy story about the dangers of censorship and of the syllabus trigger warnings favored by some liberal activists on American college campuses. But that article did not include perhaps the most high-profile case of academic censorship in recent memory: that of Steven Salaita, whose position at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign was rescinded when his criticism of Israel angered donors. Apparently, because Salaita is a liberal, censoring him doesn’t deserve the same discussion in an article on academic free speech. (The University of Illinois recently granted Salaita a settlement.)

These are only a few examples. Anita Sarkeesian, a feminist video game critic, has had to cancel talks because of anti-feminist death threats. Milo Yiannopoulos, a writer at Breitbart, tried to silence prominent Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King by spreading baseless rumors that he was not black (Yiannopoulus has been involved in the attacks on Nyberg as well.) Breitbart also wrote multiple articles about Monica Foy, a woman who was in no way a public figure, for sending out an anti-cop tweet. As Breitbart surely knew would happen, her phone and address were quickly leaked online, and she received numerous threatening voice mails. Her family’s addresses were leaked as well.

As sociologist and trans feminist Katherine Cross tells Quartz, “the political right nurses a number of shibboleths that one can never say a word against without bringing down hellfire: we never think of the fact that one cannot publicly criticize the military easily as a form of political correctness, for instance, but it meets the classic definition far better.”

So when people talk about the dangers of political correctness, why aren’t such examples of conservative intolerance ever brought up?

There are probably several reasons. First, bashing the left for political correctness has become a popular pastime for many liberals like Jonathan Chait and Katha Pollitt. By declaring your commitment to free speech, you can show your seriousness and relative political moderation. Much of the discussion of political correctness, then, is about inter-left positioning. Talking about censorship perpetuated by right-leaning pundits in that context would just muddy the waters.

Second, the left itself tends to frame harassment that stems from politically conservative sources as prejudice rather than censorship. Gamergate, for example, is typically criticized for misogyny, rather than for stifling free speech.

Yet in practice, prejudice and censorship are so intertwined it’s difficult to separate them. For example, after freelance writer Sarah Sahim wrote a piece about the need for more diversity in indie rock, she was targeted for vicious harassment by neo-Nazis. She received rape and death threats and numerous racist and sexist insults.
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Reply #1 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:37pm
 
All the harassment comes from men, Sahim tells Quartz. “My guess is that white masculine fragility came into play—they are annoyed by default when someone speaks out against them.” Sexism and racism are easy weapons in the battle to shut down speech.

“What harassment, especially harassment en masse, does is effectively chill speech.” sociologist Cross tells Quartz. “You start calculating around the inevitability of it, thinking ‘I shouldn’t say this because it may give a clue about where I live’ or ‘I won’t say this because I know someone will take it out of context.’ Every time I publish an article, tweet, or even give answers in interviews like this I have to think about my family, the fallout that might affect them, and whether there is some unforeseen offense I’ll give to someone on the far right who will make me their pet project for the next god-knows-how-long.”

Sadly, in the age of the internet and social media, such treatment isn’t even reserved for high-profile individuals or those with large platforms. As Foy’s experience shows, anyone who expresses opinions the right disagrees with can be targeted.

People who truly care about freedom of speech, and who worry about silencing in the name of political correctness, should care about the right’s actions too. By framing the problem as one perpetuated by liberals, we allow individuals on the right to continue to harass their own ideological enemies with impunity. As it is, current discussions of political correctness don’t challenge censorship. They provide cover for it.

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Reply #2 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:38pm
 
It's the lefties who push that idiocy called Political correctness.
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:41pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:38pm:
It's the lefties who push that idiocy called Political correctness.


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservative_correctness
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Reply #4 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:41pm
 
If true, then all I can say is suck on this big fat one. You reap what you sow

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This was, in short, an organized campaign of harassment and intimidation designed to shame and silence Nyberg and anyone who supported her. She held opinions that people disliked, and so she was doxxed and virtually attacked. This is ideologically motivated online harassment. But because it was perpetuated by right-wingers, it’s rarely presented as an attack on free speech or as an overreach of political correctness.


This is a daily occurrence from the left, so suck on it.
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Reply #5 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:46pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:41pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:38pm:
It's the lefties who push that idiocy called Political correctness.


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservative_correctness



Conservative correctness ("CC"), also known as patriotic correctness ("PC")[1] or right-wing political correctness[2] is a term referring to a brand of political correctness practiced by conservatives. Yes, seriously. Whereas political correctness attempts to minimize offense through the rebranding of certain words and terms to be neutral or inclusive, its conservative counterpart rebrands terms to include extreme political bias,


I think you should re-read your article and match it with the definition

Baron is correct. The article is about lefties political correctness
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Reply #6 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:50pm
 
No it isn't. Right wingers are often criticized but not outright attacked. You find that violent hate mobs online are almost always exclusively right wing and male dominated.

Compare the two "Tech ethics" subs on Reddit, the left wing Ghazi and the right wing KiA. KiA has been implicated in recent shootings at BLM protesters and is being investigated by the FBI, Ghazi is a very mature community where information has sources and rare aggressive violent behavior (from left wingers) is moderated and they are banned.

Look at Youtube, compare two popular channels say the left wing Tooltime to the right wing Sargon of Akkad.

Sargon of Akkad doxxes people (releases their home/work details) is incredibly aggressive, calls minorities "Sp*cs", "N*ggers" etc etc, engages in outright quote mining and editing of footage to make it look like people said something they didn't say. Sargon of Akkad has hundreds of thousands of right wing subscribers on Youtube.

Tooltime another large channel sources all his information to journals, has studied psychology and philosophy, is incredibly polite to people in his comment sections and tries to foment real discussion on issues.

Censorship online and largely in the media is generally the domain as the right, as the appeal to status quo is easy and people don't like to be criticized.

How about how that SBS reporter lost his job for decrying the absolute jingoistic disgrace ANZAC day has become. Yet Bolt still denies the Stolen Generation happened and nothing happens to him.
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Reply #7 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:58pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:50pm:
No it isn't. Right wingers are often criticized but not outright attacked. You find that violent hate mobs online are almost always exclusively right wing and male dominated..

Compare the two "Tech ethics" subs on Reddit, the left wing Ghazi and the right wing KiA. KiA has been implicated in recent shootings at BLM protesters and is being investigated by the FBI, Ghazi is a very mature community where information has sources and rare aggressive violent behavior (from left wingers) is moderated and they are banned.

Look at Youtube, compare two popular channels say the left wing Tooltime to the right wing Sargon of Akkad.

Sargon of Akkad doxxes people (releases their home/work details) is incredibly aggressive, calls minorities "Sp*cs", "N*ggers" etc etc, engages in outright quote mining and editing of footage to make it look like people said something they didn't say. Sargon of Akkad has hundreds of thousands of right wing subscribers on Youtube.

Tooltime another large channel sources all his information to journals, has studied psychology and philosophy, is incredibly polite to people in his comment sections and tries to foment real discussion on issues.

Censorship online and largely in the media is generally the domain as the right, as the appeal to status quo is easy and people don't like to be criticized.

How about how that SBS reporter lost his job for decrying the absolute jingoistic disgrace ANZAC day has become. Yet Bolt still denies the Stolen Generation happened and nothing happens to him.

oh geezuz whatever.

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Reply #8 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:02pm
 
Please show us these crazed left wing hate mobs doxxing people.

Oh look doesn't exist.

4chan, Reddit, 8chan, Stormfront, websites with literally tens of millions of users between them and the default is right wing crybaby edgelord who gets offended at literally every little thing the left criticizes and siks huge hatemobs on them.
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Reply #9 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:17pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:02pm:
Please show us these crazed left wing hate mobs doxxing people.

Oh look doesn't exist.

4chan, Reddit, 8chan, Stormfront, websites with literally tens of millions of users between them and the default is right wing crybaby edgelord who gets offended at literally every little thing the left criticizes and siks huge hatemobs on them.

It isn't hard to figure out, if you had a brain that is not swinging all over the place left.

Today we are in a time where most people are sick to death of the left and will not take it lying down.

Now go to one of those supposed right wing sites and get your medicine that is well deserved after 40 years of constant left wing whining.
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Reply #10 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:34pm
 
Free speech only matters when it's the right.

Once again that sentence proves itself true..
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Reply #11 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:45pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:17pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:02pm:
Please show us these crazed left wing hate mobs doxxing people.

Oh look doesn't exist.

4chan, Reddit, 8chan, Stormfront, websites with literally tens of millions of users between them and the default is right wing crybaby edgelord who gets offended at literally every little thing the left criticizes and siks huge hatemobs on them.

It isn't hard to figure out, if you had a brain that is not swinging all over the place left.

Today we are in a time where most people are sick to death of the left and will not take it lying down.

Now go to one of those supposed right wing sites and get your medicine that is well deserved after 40 years of constant left wing whining.

So the world isn't sick of arms dealing and war industry shennanigans then??

Shocked Shocked Shocked
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #12 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:52pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:34pm:
Free speech only matters when it's the right.

Once again that sentence proves itself true..

Freedom has to be defended by arms dealing, i mean,... standing armys that rely on a standing bespoke infrastructure. But, you can't expect the market forces employed to just destroy the old technology,.. surely that wouldn't make aforementioned market forces ameniable? Just pawn it off and 'we' can all look the other way  Shocked Shocked

no wuckas bro  Huh

(Talk about government intervention into the bullshite invisible hand of free-markets  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes )
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #13 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 3:43pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:38pm:
It's the lefties who push that idiocy called Political correctness.


Really?

That's news to me.

I've certainly never supported it.

The problem here is, the Right see what they think of as
PC as a brake on their bigoted hate-speech.

And so, as long as it serves that purpose, I've decided I
can live with it.
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Reply #14 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 3:56pm
 
Kat wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 3:43pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 12:38pm:
It's the lefties who push that idiocy called Political correctness.


Really?

That's news to me.

I've certainly never supported it.

The problem here is, the Right see what they think of as
PC as a brake on their bigoted hate-speech.

And so, as long as it serves that purpose, I've decided I
can live with it.

I call BS. You have never lived without it.
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