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An article by Paul Kelly in the Aust.

Muslim communities are leading the fight against terrorism. Support services, deradicalisation programs, education in schools and mosques that preach against violence and extremism - all muslim initiatives. Imams, muslim social workers, muslim academics and researchers - are never shy to open up conversations with the community and explain their work and the issues they face. Barely a day goes by when you don't see one of them in the media raising awareness and advocating their work. So you'd have to literally be living in a cave to not be aware of the hard work being done within the muslim community to tackle this issue.

The problem though is that the radicals are always, without fail, outside the mainstream muslim community - they shun the mosques, shun the Imams and volunteers who teach against terrorist ideology. Time and time again the profile of the "radicalised youth" is the same - they avoid the mosques and seek out radical freelancers. Every police and intelligence assessment backs this up. Often, as was the case with Monis, the mainstream muslim community identifies a threat, reports it to police, who then sit on their hands. Monis held up the cafe while he was out on bail for accessory to murder. In what twisted world is "the muslim community" responsible for that?

Its all relative isn't it sprint. So far in the history of modern muslim settlement, we've had 2 or 3 actual terrorist incidents, involving 3 individual radicals, resulting in 3 innocent fatalities. And thats including the guy who the muslim community referred to police years before he carried out his murder. The police reportedly believe there are about 15 radical individuals in the community capable of carrying out a terrorist act. Thats 15 - nationwide, in a population of over half a million.

Has the muslim community "failed" because of these incidents, or has it succeeded because in the scheme of things, actual violence by actual radicalised muslims in Australia is almost non-existent?

The reason for the low incidence of terrorism in Australia is the strict control of firearms and explosives.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:24am:




Exactly, thanks to terrorists the muslim community is now having hundreds millions of dollars spent on it, they are the centre of government attention and largess, its a net benefit as it will lead to yet more concessions as no end of charlatans ask for free government money for this or that bogus project. 

Also you won't find too many muslims that are upset over the fact that the prophet can no longer be lampooned thanks to a few muslim psychopaths, this is also a net benefit to the muslim community at large, ISIS is helping them to create a more islamic world.

issuevoter wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:27pm:


I think that is "a" reason but not by any means the sole reason.

Phemanderac wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 4:12pm:



The government has entered into a partnership with the muslim to encourage more terrorism in Australia, it does this through immigration (there can be absolutely no doubt at all that a certain % of muslim immigrants are pro terror), so the government is not only doing nothing about terror right now it is actually encouraging more of it.

And when we have the inevitable terror attack the government will throw yet more money at the muslim in order to bribe them to stop, this will just embolden the muslim to force the government to make more concessions, who knows, maybe sharia law under the excuse that it will help contain the radical element. 

Terrorism benefits all muslims.

mothra wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 5:35pm:


One can only hope that he's typing his paranoid delusions from inside a very secure facility.