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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #105 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:53pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

You claimed China has 1G internet. Where exactly? Much of china outside of the cities is yet to get the telephone and sealed roads.

Having just spent 3 weeks in the country, Tianjin to Guilin & everything in between, as usual our asian neighbours are so far ahead of us technology wise it is pitiful.

Sure you are correct, some places have no phone or sealed roads, they would be the upper northern China on the border of Mongolia.

Much like Gingerah WA 6725

So they get internet that is highly censored and a lack of person freedom. I'd rather live here and have dial-up before that.

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highly censored

Scope has quite adequately dealt with that issue, however I will add that I also had no issue accessing any site I wanted, it's called VPN.

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person freedom

As with Vietnam I experienced far more personal freedom in China than I do in Australia.

Discussing this fact with several expat Australians over a few beers the conclusion was reached that the mix of western economy with communist discipline is just about right.
There are very REAL & very SERIOUS consequences for criminal behaviour which is why you can walk the streets no matter the time no matter the location with no fear.

The above in no way excuses the persecution of minorities such as Falun Gong or Tibetans + other human rights abuses.

But the image of an over militarist presence through the whole of society is mis information belonging to the 60's cold war.

Okay so in today's lesson china has no internet censorship and more freedom than anywhere else in the world.

Well comrades, you have done well in propaganda albeit rather obviously.

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #106 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:57pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

scope wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

You claimed China has 1G internet. Where exactly? Much of china outside of the cities is yet to get the telephone and sealed roads.

Having just spent 3 weeks in the country, Tianjin to Guilin & everything in between, as usual our asian neighbours are so far ahead of us technology wise it is pitiful.

Sure you are correct, some places have no phone or sealed roads, they would be the upper northern China on the border of Mongolia.

Much like Gingerah WA 6725

So they get internet that is highly censored and a lack of person freedom. I'd rather live here and have dial-up before that.

Once again you show your stupidity, Im in China right now yet have no problem accessing this site and many others, so much for highly censored.
I live in hope that one day you will be able to open your mouth without putting both feet in as you so often do.
Strange how everybody else can see the stupid NBN the Libs have saddled us with but not you.
You really are pathetic the way you support this Liberal fiasco.

Okay... so your definition of 'uncensored' is access this site? Try googling Tianamen squaare and see where you end up.

You would be the first ignoramus ever to say that China's internet is not censored.

You are correct with this fact, but the average Chinese person is EXACTLY the same as the average Australian resident.
They will believe what their government tells them over a foreign one (even with proof) 99.9999% of the time.

Their internet access & mobile telecommunications EVEN WITH government regulation put ours to SHAME, & that the nubb of this thread, We are being DUDDED.

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #108 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:00pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

Okay so in today's lesson china has no internet censorship and more freedom than anywhere else in the world.

No that's no where near the lesson or even what has been said.

Are you from S.A?

We had a poster a while back from there with the same comprehension problems as yourself, do you think its the education system?

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REBELLION is not what most people think it is.
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #109 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:01pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

You claimed China has 1G internet. Where exactly? Much of china outside of the cities is yet to get the telephone and sealed roads.

Having just spent 3 weeks in the country, Tianjin to Guilin & everything in between, as usual our asian neighbours are so far ahead of us technology wise it is pitiful.

Sure you are correct, some places have no phone or sealed roads, they would be the upper northern China on the border of Mongolia.

Much like Gingerah WA 6725

So they get internet that is highly censored and a lack of person freedom. I'd rather live here and have dial-up before that.

2 things

Quote:

highly censored

Scope has quite adequately dealt with that issue, however I will add that I also had no issue accessing any site I wanted, it's called VPN.

Quote:

person freedom

As with Vietnam I experienced far more personal freedom in China than I do in Australia.

Discussing this fact with several expat Australians over a few beers the conclusion was reached that the mix of western economy with communist discipline is just about right.
There are very REAL & very SERIOUS consequences for criminal behaviour which is why you can walk the streets no matter the time no matter the location with no fear.

The above in no way excuses the persecution of minorities such as Falun Gong or Tibetans + other human rights abuses.

But the image of an over militarist presence through the whole of society is mis information belonging to the 60's cold war.

Okay so in today's lesson china has no internet censorship and more freedom than anywhere else in the world.

Well comrades, you have done well in propaganda albeit rather obviously.

lol, says the copper internet lover: hey , kids,... come and play on the copper internet me and daddy bought you with your inheritance Shocked

Yeh, go malcolm and

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #110 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:02pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:00pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

Okay so in today's lesson china has no internet censorship and more freedom than anywhere else in the world.

No that's no where near the lesson or even what has been said.

Are you from S.A?

We had a poster a while back from there with the same comprehension problems as yourself, do you think its the education system?

it's too many churches combined with too much marijuana Grin

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #112 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:21pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:57pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

scope wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

You claimed China has 1G internet. Where exactly? Much of china outside of the cities is yet to get the telephone and sealed roads.

Having just spent 3 weeks in the country, Tianjin to Guilin & everything in between, as usual our asian neighbours are so far ahead of us technology wise it is pitiful.

Sure you are correct, some places have no phone or sealed roads, they would be the upper northern China on the border of Mongolia.

Much like Gingerah WA 6725

So they get internet that is highly censored and a lack of person freedom. I'd rather live here and have dial-up before that.

Once again you show your stupidity, Im in China right now yet have no problem accessing this site and many others, so much for highly censored.
I live in hope that one day you will be able to open your mouth without putting both feet in as you so often do.
Strange how everybody else can see the stupid NBN the Libs have saddled us with but not you.
You really are pathetic the way you support this Liberal fiasco.

Okay... so your definition of 'uncensored' is access this site? Try googling Tianamen squaare and see where you end up.

You would be the first ignoramus ever to say that China's internet is not censored.

You are correct with this fact, but the average Chinese person is EXACTLY the same as the average Australian resident.
They will believe what their government tells them over a foreign one (even with proof) 99.9999% of the time.

Their internet access & mobile telecommunications EVEN WITH government regulation put ours to SHAME, & that the nubb of this thread, We are being DUDDED.

Was that really your support and justification for censorship and rewriting of history? Cynicism, even extreme cynicism is understandable, but this is not. HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND?

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #113 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:23pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:00pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

Okay so in today's lesson china has no internet censorship and more freedom than anywhere else in the world.

No that's no where near the lesson or even what has been said.

Are you from S.A?

We had a poster a while back from there with the same comprehension problems as yourself, do you think its the education system?

It is however what you have been saying. You apparently have absolutely no problem with censorship or the lack of freedom.

You could at least give these notions some weak lipservice.

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #114 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:23pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:03pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

Everyone do remember that Rudd was going to sell off 50% of NBN don't you?

Still trying to pretend you don't speak english ay Cheesy

It's Engwrish you plick Roll Eyes

whatever mafia duud

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #115 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:04pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:00pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

Okay so in today's lesson china has no internet censorship and more freedom than anywhere else in the world.

No that's no where near the lesson or even what has been said.

Are you from S.A?

We had a poster a while back from there with the same comprehension problems as yourself, do you think its the education system?

It is however what you have been saying. You apparently have absolutely no problem with censorship or the lack of freedom.

You could at least give these notions some weak lipservice.

Books and websites are banned in Australia, do you classify this as censorship or an infringement of our freedoms?

Again the point is we are getting a substandard internet service, or in your mind does this not matter?

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REBELLION is when you turn off the TV & start educating & thinking for yourself.
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #117 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:23pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:18am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:10am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:

Please point me to the generally available 1Gb ISP plan. I have no doubt big companies have it organised already and have so for some time - which is my point. If you needed it you would already have it.

In South Korea a 1G Home plan costs $20 US a month, In China it is $25 a month, three years ago.

We are spending tens of billions in order to end up in ten years time at least 10 years behind where many countries were 5 years ago.

We are aiming to be at the low end of 2008 world standards in 2025 and it will cost us something like $90 B to get there.

I think we are all going to have to demand a level of proof from you. Not only does it seem unlikely, but it is also YOU - an inveterate liar.

I tend to back up most of what I have to say unlike you.

I posted a couple of clips yesterday showing internet standards at 2013. There is no argument that we are aiming at having a 25G system well into the future this is beyond argument, it is also well known that many countries have had well beyond that for some time. It is known that nobody is rolling out FTTN technology.

I find it difficult to find what it is that you could possibly disagree with.

Britain already has one.

And gradually moving to fttp.

But has FTTN which was the lie DNA stated (again).

I have never stated what technology is used in Britain I didn't know but they did install it in 2007 which is consistent with it being a viable option at that time.

How can I have lied when I made no comment on the topic ?

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #118 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:25pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:08pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:10am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:

Please point me to the generally available 1Gb ISP plan. I have no doubt big companies have it organised already and have so for some time - which is my point. If you needed it you would already have it.

In South Korea a 1G Home plan costs $20 US a month, In China it is $25 a month, three years ago.

We are spending tens of billions in order to end up in ten years time at least 10 years behind where many countries were 5 years ago.

We are aiming to be at the low end of 2008 world standards in 2025 and it will cost us something like $90 B to get there.

I think we are all going to have to demand a level of proof from you. Not only does it seem unlikely, but it is also YOU - an inveterate liar.

I tend to back up most of what I have to say unlike you.

I posted a couple of clips yesterday showing internet standards at 2013. There is no argument that we are aiming at having a 25G system well into the future this is beyond argument, it is also well known that many countries have had well beyond that for some time. It is known that nobody is rolling out FTTN technology.

I find it difficult to find what it is that you could possibly disagree with.

Britain already has one.

That is the point - it was perfectly appropriate to install 2007 technology in 2007.

We are aiming to have the same thing by about 2025.

so you admit you lied. Thanks!

Your comprehension is atrocious.

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