21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 3:07pm:


And when I ask people what they mean by that and how FTTH would make that come true, they dont answer or simply say 'videoconference'.

Would you care to try for being the first ever to make a business and export case for FTTH while remember that the H stands for home, not business.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:


That's funny - you are asking for information and yet offer nothing to backup your opinion.

Why is FTTN the best option for the whole country?

I'm not asking about your needs, I'm asking why we should build FTTN instead of the other options.

What do you think about the fact FTTH is cheaper compared with FTTN?

Do you believe wireless has enough spectrum to service everyone?

What do you think about the fact the LNP's cost have doubled and time frame have tripled?

If you don't provide information backed up by data and studies to support your position I'll know you are illterate when it comes to technology.

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 4:03pm:


For starters, the highlighted bit is a lie and you have provided no evidence to support it which I notice is a common trend with you NBN-hysterics.

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:


Its also not 2050 now nor is it even close. For all we know, wireless will be faster than fiber by then.  You don't know.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

The point dear, thick Longy, is that we need to build now for the future. The MTM is not building for the future, it is inadequate now with Netflix here. And it is costing more, $57.5Bn currently. Once rolled out (if that happens) it will cost heaps to power and maintain.

One of the main faults of FTTN is: they either roll our hundreds of thousands of kilometres of new copper or FTTN will be a bigger flop than I judge it to be now.

FTTN won’t pay for itself and it will not boost our economy.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:


No Maria - Wireless WILL NEVER be faster than FTTH - not in this lifetime or the next.

DIDO, MIMO and every other wireless technology doesn't match a fixed connection.

FTTH is for the home, however Fibre to a business will enable digital production and distribution of large (10gb or more) files.

It will add 3% to our gdp and has been demonstrated as cheaper than FTTN - this has been quantified by the now released nbn reports.

FTTN is costing $1600 per premise plus maintenance.

FTTH is costing $1500 per premise - it doens't need maintenance.

I would be happy with FTTdP as it provides much faster speeds, doesn't need the nodes that FTTN does and will cost us less to roll out and maintain.

I'm a business analyst - this is my area of expertise and I have been following the nbn since 2006 when Howard was still in government.

FTTH also provides a better roi - FTTN doesn't pay for itself and will lead to the government having to put it on the budget.

You can argue all you want, I don't know much but I do know something about the technologies in play - something which you have proven with your lack of knowledge on spectrum and wireless internet!

What do you think runs all those wireless towers - it's not copper!

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:


so you think wifi will one day be faster than the speed of light? 

I've told you before Maria, ask for a refund. They clearly ripped you off.

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:


what maintenance? Ive not had a tech out to 'maintain' my copper phone line in 25 years nor do I expect to anytime in the future.  Your belief in the indestructibility of fibre is touching if a tad ludicrous.

The rest of your figures are also garbage and easily disputed.