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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #270 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:22pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

SO in essence, what you are saying is that you cannot find some mythical reason for the household to have this 100Mbps internet?

No, it's about replacing old tech with new. You can buy just an NBN phoneline. You can also buy 10, 100 or 1000Gb connections. It allows every connection, the same as the old copper used to. Do it once, do it uniformly as the copper generally was. Why resurrect old tech as part of the plan? There should be no revamps of copper or coax. As they become "past lifetime" they should be replaced, not repaired.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16624 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #274 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 11:36pm Woohoo! Just for the sake of it.
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #275 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 2:59am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:02pm:

We are saying that we cannot hammer sense into the block of concrete you use for a head. The Netflix has slowed down the whole network!

There is a node was put up just around the corner of my street. On returning from the market this afternoon I saw a technician working on it so stopped the car and chatted to him.

He agreed FTTN was a joke barely capable of 5:1. It has an airconditioner (so triple the power cost) at the front and a fan at the back. But he told me if it got over 30°C the thing would stop working.

We had a good laugh and I finished driving home.

FTTN is a joke.

Telehealth is not teleconferencing. How many times do you have to be told something before you get it? 100?

Um, it has an airconditioner at the front?

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #276 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 3:04am

Setanta wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:22pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

SO in essence, what you are saying is that you cannot find some mythical reason for the household to have this 100Mbps internet?

No, it's about replacing old tech with new. You can buy just an NBN phoneline. You can also buy 10, 100 or 1000Gb connections. It allows every connection, the same as the old copper used to. Do it once, do it uniformly as the copper generally was. Why resurrect old tech as part of the plan? There should be no revamps of copper or coax. As they become "past lifetime" they should be replaced, not repaired.

I've told maria many times that it's the basics of bang for your tax payer buck... maria just does that finger poo with her undies and continues on pretending to be an important woman above the whole conversation.

Technology is boring except when it comes to hubby saying copper is sweet, apparently Grin

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #277 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 3:05am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

"But I don't need anything faster than ADSL so we shouldn't upgrade"

"You can't demonstrate why we need FTTP so we shouldn't upgrade"

"It's too expensive to upgrade"

"Only business' need it"

This is the type of thinking of Maria and co - if we had the same type of thinking back when they were building the copper network we would not have built it and we wouldn't have adsl today!

Only upgrading for business' is false economy when rolling out a network of this magnitude.

Either do the whole country or don't even bother and we fall further behind.

SO in essence, what you are saying is that you cannot find some mythical reason for the household to have this 100Mbps internet?

maria has never even heard of upload speed Grin

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #278 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 3:06am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 3:05am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

"But I don't need anything faster than ADSL so we shouldn't upgrade"

"You can't demonstrate why we need FTTP so we shouldn't upgrade"

"It's too expensive to upgrade"

"Only business' need it"

This is the type of thinking of Maria and co - if we had the same type of thinking back when they were building the copper network we would not have built it and we wouldn't have adsl today!

Only upgrading for business' is false economy when rolling out a network of this magnitude.

Either do the whole country or don't even bother and we fall further behind.

SO in essence, what you are saying is that you cannot find some mythical reason for the household to have this 100Mbps internet?

maria has never even heard of upload speed Grin

and you need how much upload speed exactly ?

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #279 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 3:13am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

12:1 is better than what 3/4 ADSLx subscribers get now. Useful for those who only want a phone.

25:5 is way better than ANYTHING ADSL/VDSL can offer. Upload photos and videos quickly, better skype calls.

50:20 would allow really good uploads/video phone calls. Grandparents want to keep up with the grandkids you know.

100:40 could easily be justified where a household has a couple of kids. The possibility of 100:40 would get many thinking about the possibilities of telecommuting!

And Netflix and company are daily swamping the copper network.

Question: can FTTN deliver 25:5 ?

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abdullah Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 195 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #280 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 4:05am Easily.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #281 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 8:59am abdullah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 4:05am: Easily. FTTN in Australia will struggle to deliver 5:1 at peak times, won’t go much over 12:1 at best. That is how the nodes are provided with fibre and the poor state of the very thin Telstra copper.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #282 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:00am It is Netflix’ internet! http://www.zdnet.com/article/were-just-using-netflixs-internet/ And the network is struggling.
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Reply #283 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:17am

Streaming Video has grown at such a rapid pace in North America that the leading service in 2015, Netflix, now has a greater share of traffic than all of streaming audio and video did five years ago

and what happens in another 5 yrs? and 5 yrs after that? and after that?

anyone who advocates building the NBN based on todays usage is a bona fide idiot. (

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #284 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:29am

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Streaming Video has grown at such a rapid pace in North America that the leading service in 2015, Netflix, now has a greater share of traffic than all of streaming audio and video did five years ago

and what happens in another 5 yrs? and 5 yrs after that? and after that?

anyone who advocates building the NBN based on todays usage is a bona fide idiot. (

Hi Maria

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Pretty much.

All the arguments against FTTP rather than “cheaper” “sooner” FTTN etc really only held a thin skerrick of seeming plausibility BN, Before Netflix. Netflix has, simply, wiped all the barely plausible arguments against FTTP off the map.

And I have been saying this since Netflix arrived here. God help us when 4K and 3D movies start being streamed!

FTTN is a LIE! One 1Gbps fibre serving 192 copper lines means we will get 5mbps tops in peak hours. Since Netflix arrived Monday and Tuesday are off peak.

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