Australian Politics Forum - Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #285 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:02am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:44pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:02pm:

We are saying that we cannot hammer sense into the block of concrete you use for a head. The Netflix has slowed down the whole network!

There is a node was put up just around the corner of my street. On returning from the market this afternoon I saw a technician working on it so stopped the car and chatted to him.

He agreed FTTN was a joke barely capable of 5:1. It has an airconditioner (so triple the power cost) at the front and a fan at the back. But he told me if it got over 30°C the thing would stop working.

We had a good laugh and I finished driving home.

FTTN is a joke.

Telehealth is not teleconferencing. How many times do you have to be told something before you get it? 100?

Then what is it? And feel free to give me actual real-world examples.

And we know you wont.

I have already done this. Go have a look.

You keep saying that and then never show them. If you had an real-world examples you would be trumpeting them loud and long, but all you had was skyping - which we can currently already do.

Back to top

IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #286 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:08am

Setanta wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:22pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

SO in essence, what you are saying is that you cannot find some mythical reason for the household to have this 100Mbps internet?

No, it's about replacing old tech with new. You can buy just an NBN phoneline. You can also buy 10, 100 or 1000Gb connections. It allows every connection, the same as the old copper used to. Do it once, do it uniformly as the copper generally was. Why resurrect old tech as part of the plan? There should be no revamps of copper or coax. As they become "past lifetime" they should be replaced, not repaired.

Just as long as YOU dont have to pay for it.

WHat about if you had the option of FTTN or FTTH but you had to pay $1000 to get FTTH. Would you pay it? It would certainly separate those who seriously want fast internet from those that dont.

Back to top

IP Logged

Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #287 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:08am .
Back to top	Get the vaxx! 💉💉 If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings. IP Logged

Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #288 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:08am .
Back to top	Get the vaxx! 💉💉 If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings. IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #289 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:09am

abdullah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 3:06am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 3:05am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

"But I don't need anything faster than ADSL so we shouldn't upgrade"

"You can't demonstrate why we need FTTP so we shouldn't upgrade"

"It's too expensive to upgrade"

"Only business' need it"

This is the type of thinking of Maria and co - if we had the same type of thinking back when they were building the copper network we would not have built it and we wouldn't have adsl today!

Only upgrading for business' is false economy when rolling out a network of this magnitude.

Either do the whole country or don't even bother and we fall further behind.

SO in essence, what you are saying is that you cannot find some mythical reason for the household to have this 100Mbps internet?

maria has never even heard of upload speed Grin

and you need how much upload speed exactly ?

If you listen to these boofheads, everyone has to upload 2Gb files a few times a day... from home.

Back to top

IP Logged

Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #290 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:10am FOD is dead. Just not enough fibre to the Nodes. How many more times must simple fact be pointed out to you? We need the benefits of ubiquitous, reliable, superfast FTTP.
Back to top	Get the vaxx! 💉💉 If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings. IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #291 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:10am

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Streaming Video has grown at such a rapid pace in North America that the leading service in 2015, Netflix, now has a greater share of traffic than all of streaming audio and video did five years ago

and what happens in another 5 yrs? and 5 yrs after that? and after that?

anyone who advocates building the NBN based on todays usage is a bona fide idiot. (

Hi Maria

)

No way I am paying $100B so you lazy buggers can watch netflix. if netflix needs that kind of bandwidth then let them pay for it.

Back to top

IP Logged

John Smith

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 75131
Gender: male

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #292 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:12am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Streaming Video has grown at such a rapid pace in North America that the leading service in 2015, Netflix, now has a greater share of traffic than all of streaming audio and video did five years ago

and what happens in another 5 yrs? and 5 yrs after that? and after that?

anyone who advocates building the NBN based on todays usage is a bona fide idiot. (

Hi Maria

)

No way I am paying $100B so you lazy buggers can watch netflix. if netflix needs that kind of bandwidth then let them pay for it.

you aren't paying sh1t ... and netflix is merely one example to highlight your shortsightedness.

Back to top

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

IP Logged

Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #293 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:12am You don’t have to pay anything. The original NBN was self funding, would have isssued bonds, paid them back from the revenue. Ironically, FTTN is unable to do that so you will be paying $100Bn. bwahahahahahahahaha
Back to top	Get the vaxx! 💉💉 If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings. IP Logged

21st Century Dialup Network Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 399 Brisbane Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #294 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:19pm abdullah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 4:05am: Easily. All connections at all times? Very doubtful seeing as FTTN can't guarantee speeds.
Back to top	Good Government V 305???? IP Logged

21st Century Dialup Network

Senior Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 399
Brisbane
Gender: male

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #295 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:24pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Streaming Video has grown at such a rapid pace in North America that the leading service in 2015, Netflix, now has a greater share of traffic than all of streaming audio and video did five years ago

and what happens in another 5 yrs? and 5 yrs after that? and after that?

anyone who advocates building the NBN based on todays usage is a bona fide idiot. (

Hi Maria

)

No way I am paying $100B so you lazy buggers can watch netflix. if netflix needs that kind of bandwidth then let them pay for it.

It's not 100 billion (unlike MTM) and isn't coming from taxpayers funds.

It was self funding, however thanks to your hero it doesn't earn enough revenue to be.

You've just shown how uninformed you actually are - this is basic nbn 101 stuff.

Back to top

Good Government V 305????

IP Logged

BatteriesNotIncluded

Gold Member

Offline

MediocrityNET: because
people died for this!

Posts: 26966

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #296 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 1:18pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Streaming Video has grown at such a rapid pace in North America that the leading service in 2015, Netflix, now has a greater share of traffic than all of streaming audio and video did five years ago

and what happens in another 5 yrs? and 5 yrs after that? and after that?

anyone who advocates building the NBN based on todays usage is a bona fide idiot. (

Hi Maria

)

You aren't us Cheesy

No way I am paying $100B so you lazy buggers can watch netflix. if netflix needs that kind of bandwidth then let them pay for it.

Back to top

*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #297 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:12am:

You don’t have to pay anything. The original NBN was self funding, would have isssued bonds, paid them back from the revenue. Ironically, FTTN is unable to do that so you will be paying $100Bn. bwahahahahahahahaha

Self-funded??? If only! Where do you think the $80B to build the thing was coming from? And since absolutely no one except Conroy and you think it was going to be profitable, who was going to pick up the tab?

It seems like business funding is just another example of something you know nothing about.

Back to top

IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #298 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 6:19pm

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:24pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Streaming Video has grown at such a rapid pace in North America that the leading service in 2015, Netflix, now has a greater share of traffic than all of streaming audio and video did five years ago

and what happens in another 5 yrs? and 5 yrs after that? and after that?

anyone who advocates building the NBN based on todays usage is a bona fide idiot. (

Hi Maria

)

No way I am paying $100B so you lazy buggers can watch netflix. if netflix needs that kind of bandwidth then let them pay for it.

It's not 100 billion (unlike MTM) and isn't coming from taxpayers funds.

It was self funding, however thanks to your hero it doesn't earn enough revenue to be.

You've just shown how uninformed you actually are - this is basic nbn 101 stuff.

It was NEVER self-funding. It was never going to be profitable and was certainly never going to be able to pay back the $80B+ capital investment.

Back to top

IP Logged

Jovial Monk

Gold Member

Offline

Dogs not cats!

Posts: 47794
Gender: male

Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #299 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 6:59pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:12am:

You don’t have to pay anything. The original NBN was self funding, would have isssued bonds, paid them back from the revenue. Ironically, FTTN is unable to do that so you will be paying $100Bn. bwahahahahahahahaha

Self-funded??? If only! Where do you think the $80B to build the thing was coming from? And since absolutely no one except Conroy and you think it was going to be profitable, who was going to pick up the tab?

It seems like business funding is just another example of something you know nothing about.

More like $45Bn. MTM will exceed $100Bn.

As to revenue, the SR prepared by Turncoat’s cronies shows that FTTH revenue would be higher than that from the MTM. Have a look at the Strategic Review some time.

Back to top

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.

IP Logged