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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #30 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 8:14am Because we the taxpayers are paying to run out fresh new copper! Boy is THAT a dumb idea!
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59253 Here Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #31 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 8:15am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 8:14am: Because we the taxpayers are paying to run out fresh new copper! Boy is THAT a dumb idea! Not as dumb as hanging it on poles.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #32 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 8:22am We are also enhancing and extending the HFC. I think THAT is the real prize for a telco or Ltd News.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #33 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:22am Kat wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:22pm: destroyed the NBN proper, simply because it was a Labor initiative. ......yes, a Labor initiative..........one of the biggest pork barrels in Australia's history too, which translates to one of the biggest defacto tax increases in Australia's history.....
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #34 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 1:09pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Kat wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

destroyed the NBN proper, simply because it was a Labor initiative.

......yes, a Labor initiative..........one of the biggest pork barrels in Australia's history too, which translates to one of the biggest defacto tax increases in Australia's history..... Cheesy

blah blah blah Shocked

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #35 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:32pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 1:09pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Kat wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

destroyed the NBN proper, simply because it was a Labor initiative.

......yes, a Labor initiative..........one of the biggest pork barrels in Australia's history too, which translates to one of the biggest defacto tax increases in Australia's history..... Cheesy

blah blah blah Shocked

......is that "yes, yes, yes" in DRAH language?

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #36 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:44pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 1:09pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Kat wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

destroyed the NBN proper, simply because it was a Labor initiative.

......yes, a Labor initiative..........one of the biggest pork barrels in Australia's history too, which translates to one of the biggest defacto tax increases in Australia's history..... Cheesy

blah blah blah Shocked

......is that "yes, yes, yes" in DRAH language?

Is 'ice' a language?

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18774 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #37 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:46pm They should sell it off along with the remains of Telstra. Competition is what brings prices down,many of those who shop at Aldi will agree with this fact. The government never does anything cheaper than private business, the new airport at Toowoomba is evidence of this.
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #38 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Kat wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

destroyed the NBN proper, simply because it was a Labor initiative.

......yes, a Labor initiative..........one of the biggest pork barrels in Australia's history too, which translates to one of the biggest defacto tax increases in Australia's history..... Cheesy

Yeah, BIG pork barrel, covering the entire nation!

You and your tax increase/cut, you have no idea!

The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports. It amounts to a HUGE tax CUT.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18774 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #39 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:53pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm: The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports. How will the NBN increase exports?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38852 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #40 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:54pm Okay, I need educating on the basic facts here. 'Maria'....how about you explain to me in simple terms who owns what, at what cost did they acquire it, and who is it being sold to, and for how much and on what terms?
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #41 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:56pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:53pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm: The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports. How will the NBN increase exports? ...someone will hack in and fudge the figures
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #42 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:04pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports.

How will the NBN increase exports?

Because creative industries will be able to accept jobs then send the file off to the client without having to wait a week for the video of an ad or other content. Now we have people moving their business to NZ or other areas where the govt doesn’t handicap its economy!

We could also be selling other services, education say IF we could upload big data files quickly. ADSL, VDSL just do not cut the mustard!

There are companies, in the Murrumbidgie IA and other rural areas where even big producers cannot properly track their shipments past farm or factory gate. With a proper communications network they could track the shipments and look for more lucrative markets.

In the main NBN thread, back a ways, I posted extracts of Hansard of the Estimates Committee on the NBN. There was lots of testimony supporting all I have said. Rural areas, rural councils were among the most gung ho for the NBN! Hell, Barnaby and Nash, back when Howard was PM, designed something very similar to the NBN.

So the man on the land is one of the groups most let down by the bloody Libs and Nats!

The copper is clapped out and cannot help our

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #43 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:12pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports.

How will the NBN increase exports?

Because creative industries will be able to accept jobs then send the file off to the client without having to wait a week for the video of an ad or other content. Now we have people moving their business to NZ or other areas where the govt doesn’t handicap its economy!

We could also be selling other services, education say IF we could upload big data files quickly. ADSL, VDSL just do not cut the mustard!

There are companies, in the Murrumbidgie IA and other rural areas where even big producers cannot properly track their shipments past farm or factory gate. With a proper communications network they could track the shipments and look for more lucrative markets.

In the main NBN thread, back a ways, I posted extracts of Hansard of the Estimates Committee on the NBN. There was lots of testimony supporting all I have said. Rural areas, rural councils were among the most gung ho for the NBN! Hell, Barnaby and Nash, back when Howard was PM, designed something very similar to the NBN.

So the man on the land is one of the groups most let down by the bloody Libs and Nats!

The copper is clapped out and cannot help our

We don't have to wait a week to download or upload videos or large files you are full of it.

In rural areas the NBN will make no difference to those who have no internet, satellite is cheaper than laying cables.

We should sell it off and let the competition between the companies come up with the best solution.

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #44 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:18pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Okay, I need educating on the basic facts here. 'Maria'....how about you explain to me in simple terms who owns what, at what cost did they acquire it, and who is it being sold to, and for how much and on what terms?

You always need educating on basic facts. Not our problem you are so ignorant and ill-informed.

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