The FTTP was last costed (2 years ago) at $90B+

Setanta wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 11:16am:



So essentially, you only want FTTH if you dont have to pay for it.  That tells me how much you actually value it - not very much at all.

The last costing of FTTH was $45Bn. The Strategic Review put the cost at $73Bn but it was admitted that number was just plucked from the air so $45Bn is still the estimate. With Project Fox technologies the cost will be less.

So the MTM is already dearer than 93% FTTH. As the obsolete FTTN rubbish is rolled out the copper remediation costs will just go up and up and up.

So $375m is needed to rerun the Optus HFC network. The Telstra HFC will also need considerable work.

Idiocy! Or worse.

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 1:45pm:


Nonsense. Of course you can support that with facts like you usually do, right?

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 4:56pm:


Knowing your penchant for lying, I will consider these claims to be pure lies unless you can provide proof to the contrary. Dont say it is here or there. SHOW ME THE PROOF.

and we all know you wont. 

PS a facebook page will be ignored as will a blog.

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 4:56pm:


Knowing your penchant for lying, I will consider these claims to be pure lies unless you can provide proof to the contrary. Dont say it is here or there. SHOW ME THE PROOF.

and we all know you wont. 

PS a facebook page will be ignored as will a blog.

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 1:45pm:


Nonsense. Of course you can support that with facts like you usually do, right?

Malcolm Turnbull’s mate JB Rousselot gets $165k NBN bonus despite $15 billion project blow out!

However, the fact remains that it was not Stephen Conroy or Mike Quigley who delivered the NBN Strategic Review. That honour remains with NBN company executives primarily appointed under Turnbull’s watch — JB Rousselot and NBN chair Ziggy Switkowski, as well the three accounting firms who assisted with its construction.
https://delimiter.com.au/2015/08/24/we-must-determine-how-the-15bn-nbn-cost-blow...

A senior Telstra executive has admitted that a national broadband network trial in NSW was not a “real-world” experience, in revelations that could embarrass Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/telstra-admits-nbn-trial-was...

A senior Telstra executive has admitted that a national broadband network trial in NSW was not a “real-world” experience, in revelations that could embarrass Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

“We don’t believe the trial represents real-world experience,” Telstra corporate affairs group executive Tony Warren said in response to Greens senator Scott Ludlam.

Mr Warren was speaking at yesterday’s Senate NBN inquiry in Melbourne where he was flanked by chief financial officer and incoming CEO Andy Penn, government relations director James Shaw and general counsel Bill Gallagher.

Mr Warren said the trial was “not a proper commercial service” with only a “small number of people involved”.

“We saw it as a trial of the technology, not a trial of the network (NBN),” Mr Warren said.

Mr Turnbull issued a press release in August entitled “NBN speeds soar in Umina Beach”, boasting of the trial’s success.

“The first customers connected to the NBN in its fibre-to-the-node pilot are achieving internet download speeds of around 100 megabits per second,” Mr Turnbull said. “The pilots also delivered upload speeds of around 30 megabits per second, at distances of more than 500m.”

The minister said the bandwidth would allow single premises to stream more than 15 high-definition video streams at once, or enable other high-bandwidth applications such as high-quality video conferencing, extensive use of cloud applications and low ­latency gaming.

Mr Turnbull said the results were “an early indication that the NBN rollout will achieve the government’s commitment to upgrading Australia’s broadband sooner, at less cost to taxpayers and therefore more affordably to consumers”.

Senator Ludlam said Mr Warren’s comments proved that the Umina trial was a mere public relations stunt by the government.

“If this is their (government) proposal for getting things up and running faster, it’s a debacle,” Senator Ludlam told The Weekend Australian after the hearing.

The WA senator was disappointed with the progress of the $41 billion NBN project, saying “it’s one of the great infrastructure debacles of modern political ­history”.

“It’s an absolute disaster what’s happened ... it’s turned into a mess,” Senator Ludlam said.

The senator also slammed the cloak of secrecy over Telstra’s and NBN Co’s recent out-of-court settlement.

Telstra and the company building the NBN settled a long-running contractual battle reportedly worth up to $200 million. The dispute related to a ruling last year that saw Telstra successfully sue NBN Co over whether annual CPI increases were applied to Telstra’s $11.2bn deal to rent infrastructure for construction of the NBN.

During the inquiry Senator Ludlam pressed Mr Penn for more transparency, asking: “Is it anticipated that that amount will eventually be disclosed at some point?”

Mr Penn remained resolute: “No. Part of the condition was that the settlement was confidential.”

He did not confirm media reports that the parties settled for $200m.

In the interview, Senator Ludlam said taxpayers deserved to know the settlement figure, instead of being told such matters were commercial-in-confidence.

He also voiced concerns for the future of the hybrid fibre-coaxial networks that were handed to NBN Co.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/telstra-admits-nbn-trial-was...

Thought so.