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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #45 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:21pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports.

How will the NBN increase exports?

Because creative industries will be able to accept jobs then send the file off to the client without having to wait a week for the video of an ad or other content. Now we have people moving their business to NZ or other areas where the govt doesn’t handicap its economy!

We could also be selling other services, education say IF we could upload big data files quickly. ADSL, VDSL just do not cut the mustard!

There are companies, in the Murrumbidgie IA and other rural areas where even big producers cannot properly track their shipments past farm or factory gate. With a proper communications network they could track the shipments and look for more lucrative markets.

In the main NBN thread, back a ways, I posted extracts of Hansard of the Estimates Committee on the NBN. There was lots of testimony supporting all I have said. Rural areas, rural councils were among the most gung ho for the NBN! Hell, Barnaby and Nash, back when Howard was PM, designed something very similar to the NBN.

So the man on the land is one of the groups most let down by the bloody Libs and Nats!

The copper is clapped out and cannot help our

The average ADSL speed is 12Mbps. The max NBD is 100Mbs - a mere 8 times the speed. if a file is taking a week then it would still take a day. The trouble is that your claim is rubbish. If anyone had need for such speed they would already have fibre as you can actually pay for it and get it now and have for a long time. Do you think the banks run on adsl??

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #46 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:23pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports.

How will the NBN increase exports?

Because creative industries will be able to accept jobs then send the file off to the client without having to wait a week for the video of an ad or other content. Now we have people moving their business to NZ or other areas where the govt doesn’t handicap its economy!

We could also be selling other services, education say IF we could upload big data files quickly. ADSL, VDSL just do not cut the mustard!

There are companies, in the Murrumbidgie IA and other rural areas where even big producers cannot properly track their shipments past farm or factory gate. With a proper communications network they could track the shipments and look for more lucrative markets.

In the main NBN thread, back a ways, I posted extracts of Hansard of the Estimates Committee on the NBN. There was lots of testimony supporting all I have said. Rural areas, rural councils were among the most gung ho for the NBN! Hell, Barnaby and Nash, back when Howard was PM, designed something very similar to the NBN.

So the man on the land is one of the groups most let down by the bloody Libs and Nats!

The copper is clapped out and cannot help our

How is faster fibre supposed to help farmers? Does it make crops grow faster? Rain more? Will it improve seed quality?

Other than getting your porn faster, why do you want it?

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #47 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:36pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Okay, I need educating on the basic facts here. 'Maria'....how about you explain to me in simple terms who owns what, at what cost did they acquire it, and who is it being sold to, and for how much and on what terms?

You always need educating on basic facts. Not our problem you are so ignorant and ill-informed.

Well, come on. Tell me. I'm all eyes.

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #48 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:40pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Okay, I need educating on the basic facts here. 'Maria'....how about you explain to me in simple terms who owns what, at what cost did they acquire it, and who is it being sold to, and for how much and on what terms?

You always need educating on basic facts. Not our problem you are so ignorant and ill-informed.

Well, come on. Tell me. I'm all eyes.

Come orn, 'Maria,' dazzle us with your knowledge. This is your moment in the Sun. I really hope you can dumb it down for me, and probably a few others as well.

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #49 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:03pm Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:40pm: Come orn, 'Maria,' dazzle us with your knowledge. This is your moment in the Sun. I really hope you can dumb it down for me, and probably a few others as well. Maria, approach this with arsie speaking with an Indian accent ....
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #50 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:07pm

Neferti wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Come orn, 'Maria,' dazzle us with your knowledge. This is your moment in the Sun. I really hope you can dumb it down for me, and probably a few others as well.

Maria, approach this with arsie speaking with an Indian accent .... Wink

Why would he need to do that, Neferti?

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #51 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:19pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

Neferti wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Come orn, 'Maria,' dazzle us with your knowledge. This is your moment in the Sun. I really hope you can dumb it down for me, and probably a few others as well.

Maria, approach this with arsie speaking with an Indian accent .... Wink

Why would he need to do that, Neferti?

Because you are INDIAN, aren't you, arsie?

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #52 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:25pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports.

How will the NBN increase exports?

Because creative industries will be able to accept jobs then send the file off to the client without having to wait a week for the video of an ad or other content. Now we have people moving their business to NZ or other areas where the govt doesn’t handicap its economy!

We could also be selling other services, education say IF we could upload big data files quickly. ADSL, VDSL just do not cut the mustard!

There are companies, in the Murrumbidgie IA and other rural areas where even big producers cannot properly track their shipments past farm or factory gate. With a proper communications network they could track the shipments and look for more lucrative markets.

In the main NBN thread, back a ways, I posted extracts of Hansard of the Estimates Committee on the NBN. There was lots of testimony supporting all I have said. Rural areas, rural councils were among the most gung ho for the NBN! Hell, Barnaby and Nash, back when Howard was PM, designed something very similar to the NBN.

So the man on the land is one of the groups most let down by the bloody Libs and Nats!

The copper is clapped out and cannot help our

The average ADSL speed is 12Mbps. The max NBD is 100Mbs - a mere 8 times the speed. if a file is taking a week then it would still take a day. The trouble is that your claim is rubbish. If anyone had need for such speed they would already have fibre as you can actually pay for it and get it now and have for a long time. Do you think the banks run on adsl??

You really are the village VERY Nice Person of this board aren’t you?

ATM the max speed is 1Gbps.

The things I mentioned that would benefit the economy depend on UPLOAD speed. 40mbps for the 100:40 speed band, 400mbps for the 1Gbps speed band.

At 40mbps a file that takes 8 hours to upload would take 12 minutes. We absolutely need FTTH.

Not mentioning the much greater reliability of fibre, its lower maintenance cost and it MUCH lower power requirements.

The industries I mentioned are not banks.

Buy the way, Village Nice Person, due to Netflix and the streaming video it sells my ADSL2 has dropped from 20 to under 7mbps. So we absolutely do NEED the NBN, copper just cannot handle normal present needs.

Now, a bank head office in a CBD undoubtedly has FTTH to it. How about its branches in the suburbs and regions?

Both you and Green_splits are pathetic in your defence of the sellouts that are your Party of choice.

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #53 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:28pm

Neferti wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

Neferti wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Come orn, 'Maria,' dazzle us with your knowledge. This is your moment in the Sun. I really hope you can dumb it down for me, and probably a few others as well.

Maria, approach this with arsie speaking with an Indian accent .... Wink

Why would he need to do that, Neferti?

Because you are INDIAN, aren't you, arsie?

How on Earth did you conclude that? No I am not Indian, and if I were, I would take great umbrage at your abusive suggestion that someone would need to talk to me in an 'Indian accent.'

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #54 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:34pm Aussie is not Indian. The suggestion is offensive, encroaching on peoples’ personal information and real life.
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #55 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:49pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

The NBN would already be seeing an increase in GDP (it could do with it, 2.5% is riculously low) employment and exports.

How will the NBN increase exports?

Because creative industries will be able to accept jobs then send the file off to the client without having to wait a week for the video of an ad or other content. Now we have people moving their business to NZ or other areas where the govt doesn’t handicap its economy!

We could also be selling other services, education say IF we could upload big data files quickly. ADSL, VDSL just do not cut the mustard!

There are companies, in the Murrumbidgie IA and other rural areas where even big producers cannot properly track their shipments past farm or factory gate. With a proper communications network they could track the shipments and look for more lucrative markets.

In the main NBN thread, back a ways, I posted extracts of Hansard of the Estimates Committee on the NBN. There was lots of testimony supporting all I have said. Rural areas, rural councils were among the most gung ho for the NBN! Hell, Barnaby and Nash, back when Howard was PM, designed something very similar to the NBN.

So the man on the land is one of the groups most let down by the bloody Libs and Nats!

The copper is clapped out and cannot help our

How is faster fibre supposed to help farmers? Does it make crops grow faster? Rain more? Will it improve seed quality?

Other than getting your porn faster, why do you want it?

Farmers that are on the NBN use it for all sort of things, tracking the movement of stock, monitoring ripeness, soil moisture monitoring etc.

They can also track movement of produce past the farm or factory gate, take advantage of price differences in different markets etc.

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #56 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Aussie is not Indian. The suggestion is offensive, encroaching on peoples’ personal information and real life.

If he's not Indian then how's it encroaching on personal info?

It's like saying I'm an accountant I must be Asian.
I'm not and neither has it encroached on my personal info.

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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #57 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:30pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Aussie is not Indian. The suggestion is offensive, encroaching on peoples’ personal information and real life.

If he's not Indian then how's it encroaching on personal info?

It's like saying I'm an accountant I must be Asian.
I'm not and neither has it encroached on my personal info.

In the words of your Boss....no-one ought be put in a position of having to discuss their personal and private details.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016 Reply #58 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:37pm Yes. Deep invasion of privacy. I have met Aussie. He is not Indian. F.F.S! Naffy has a history of prying.
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Re: Turnbull selling the NBN to "Major Telco" in 2016
Reply #59 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:38pm

Neferti wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

Neferti wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Come orn, 'Maria,' dazzle us with your knowledge. This is your moment in the Sun. I really hope you can dumb it down for me, and probably a few others as well.

Maria, approach this with arsie speaking with an Indian accent .... Wink

Why would he need to do that, Neferti?

Because you are INDIAN, aren't you, arsie?

Taxi Driver??? good guess I'd say.

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