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Reply #120 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:39am

The Heartless Felon wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 6:53am:

"His Defence Team conceded DURING THE TRIAL that a finding of guilt of manslaughter was open on the evidence."

How many times does this have to be said?

I have nothing but contempt for this grub, however, trials and appeals are decided by law, not emotion.

oh very true... so why have a jury in the first place when it can be overruled by the court anyway???

no one his disputing his trial...his bloody guilt or otherwise..

its the fact the verdict can be overturned just like that.. snap..

no!!!.. no new trial....

we the court have decided he should have been found GUILTY of MANSLAUGHTER..

how does anyone know he didnt have a real anger management moment when she said she was going to go to the conference..whether he liked it or not...

and hes thought.. NO YOU BLOODY WONT BE>.POW..

no he is being given the benefit of the doubt. not by 12 good men.. but by a faceless court......and of course his barrister.. Roll Eyes

that is what I OBJECT too...and that is what the petition is about..

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21747 ACT Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #121 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:44am Lets hope the prosecution appeals this to the higher court!
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Reply #122 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:48am

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:44am:

Lets hope the prosecution appeals this to the higher court!

no I think its done and dusted....a new sentence will be announced next year....

this has come from left field...I think thats whats got everyone riled up...

well it has me anyway....and I dont care what any wannabee thinks.. I am entitled to my opinion...

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Reply #123 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 8:22am

cods wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:44am:

Lets hope the prosecution appeals this to the higher court!

no I think its done and dusted....a new sentence will be announced next year....

this has come from left field...I think thats whats got everyone riled up...

well it has me anyway....and I dont care what any wannabee thinks.. I am entitled to my opinion...

I am pretty sure it can be appealed, I think I read somewhere the prosecution may be awaiting the new sentence to see how long he gets. (Manslaughter can get a life sentence I think thay said, so if he got say 15+ years they may leave it)

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Reply #124 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:21pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 8:22am:

cods wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:44am:

Lets hope the prosecution appeals this to the higher court!

no I think its done and dusted....a new sentence will be announced next year....

this has come from left field...I think thats whats got everyone riled up...

well it has me anyway....and I dont care what any wannabee thinks.. I am entitled to my opinion...

I am pretty sure it can be appealed, I think I read somewhere the prosecution may be awaiting the new sentence to see how long he gets. (Manslaughter can get a life sentence I think thay said, so if he got say 15+ years they may leave it)

doesnt make a lot of sense really except another fat cat just gets fatter....

I read where the sentence can be the same.. so what the????? heck is the point...

to overrule a jury like that doesnt work for me...

maybe the courts dont have enough to do up there.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139947 Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #125 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:23pm Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:45pm: Very disappointing! What is?
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The Heartless Felon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2869 Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #126 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:26pm How are which fat cats getting fatter? (Truly, the road is long and the way is steep...)
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Reply #127 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 1:41pm

Oh, I don't know... I think I'd like to see the full evidence.... from what I've read here it is 'circumstantial' with no real links - which is more than a little bit shaky.

He may well be guilty - but proof positive? In this country you can never be sure, and
'twelve good people and true' have sent countless innocents to the gallows.....

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #128 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 2:25pm Irregardless of what happens to Baden Clay, he will walk through life with the mark of 'Cain' as clearly branded on his forehead as if it had been put there with a red hot branding iron. It says, "I MURDERED MY WIFE"
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Reply #129 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 2:28pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 8:22am:

cods wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:44am:

Lets hope the prosecution appeals this to the higher court!

no I think its done and dusted....a new sentence will be announced next year....

this has come from left field...I think thats whats got everyone riled up...

well it has me anyway....and I dont care what any wannabee thinks.. I am entitled to my opinion...

I am pretty sure it can be appealed, I think I read somewhere the prosecution may be awaiting the new sentence to see how long he gets. (Manslaughter can get a life sentence I think thay said, so if he got say 15+ years they may leave it)

You 'think' incorrectly. They have 28 days to appeal, and time is running.

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Reply #130 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 2:54pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 2:28pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 8:22am:

cods wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:44am:

Lets hope the prosecution appeals this to the higher court!

no I think its done and dusted....a new sentence will be announced next year....

this has come from left field...I think thats whats got everyone riled up...

well it has me anyway....and I dont care what any wannabee thinks.. I am entitled to my opinion...

I am pretty sure it can be appealed, I think I read somewhere the prosecution may be awaiting the new sentence to see how long he gets. (Manslaughter can get a life sentence I think thay said, so if he got say 15+ years they may leave it)

You 'think' incorrectly. They have 28 days to appeal, and time is running.

Thanks "Your Honour"!

Good to see you in control of proceedings as usual! Grin

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Reply #131 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 1:42am

red baron wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 2:25pm:

Irregardless of what happens to Baden Clay, he will walk through life with the mark of 'Cain' as clearly branded on his forehead as if it had been put there with a red hot branding iron.

It says, "I MURDERED MY WIFE"

Imagine being any woman who may find herself interested in him... but then - in this day and age, how do we know that the nice lady we just met at the club is not a recently released hubby killer? We don't....

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Reply #132 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 6:09am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 1:42am:

red baron wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 2:25pm:

Irregardless of what happens to Baden Clay, he will walk through life with the mark of 'Cain' as clearly branded on his forehead as if it had been put there with a red hot branding iron.

It says, "I MURDERED MY WIFE"

Imagine being any woman who may find herself interested in him... but then - in this day and age, how do we know that the nice lady we just met at the club is not a recently released hubby killer? We don't....

not wrong! goes with any crime doesnt it?.....

but the more outraged people become...

the more chance you have of changing things...

we have become a nanny state.. where we seem to care more about the villains than we do about the victims or future victims...

we put rapists back on the streets even give them BAIl..

life is 15 years..if that.. Roll Eyes

crims have a huge lobby group....

pity about their victims... Angry

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Reply #133 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 12:41pm

This is an excerpt from an article in today's 'Sunday Mail' (Courier Mail) ~ no link, there is a paywall ~ and it demonstrates the absolute hypocrisy and emotional garbage being peddled by the schmedia which misleads punters like cods. This paragraph is but a very small one in a very long article which was aimed to tug heart strings with the haunting sound of mourning violins:

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The court's decision is no doubt justified by some legal technicality, but it's a huge slap in the face for Allison's family and all victims of domestic violence.

Huh? So the author concedes with no doubt the decision is justified
in Law
.......and then, tunes in the pathetic bloody violins! It is only the Law which must be satisfied in this environment, not the artificial wailing laments of journalists seeking commercial gain.

Pharking irresponsible garbage!

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Reply #134 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 3:03pm

The Law is an ass...no sorry sometimes the law is an ARSE, like in this case.

Never ever forget that laws are made up by humans with pens in their hands and the law can be changed as swiftly as the stroke of a pen.

If you are looking for Justice go hire the Hells Angels, you will most probably get a more satisfactory result.

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