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Reply #195 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:46pm

Two years is nothing in the Public's mind. It is my opinion that the Queensland Public are foaming mouthed furious with the f.....g ineptitude of the Queensland Judiciary over the Baden Clay affair.

This is obvious to Blind Freddie with the enormous support that Groups interested in seeing Justice done have received

The public have long memories Aussie and you can put your house on the fact that the Queensland Opposition will stick it right in the Government's eye when the next election campaign gets under way.

Women's victims groups in Queensland, will be queuing up to tar and feather the Government, even though it is the Judiciary who have f......d up this Appeal by downgrading the charges.

Yes Aussie I know your position on it but there are a whole lot of people out there that have seen Baden Clay tried and found guilty of Murder by a Jury of his Peers and those same people think the Appeal was a load of crap, including me.

But...the Public will blame the Government, mark my words.

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Reply #197 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:50pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

Two years is nothing in the Public's mind. It is my opinion that the Queensland Public are foaming mouthed furious with the f.....g ineptitude of the Queensland Judiciary over the Baden Clay affair.

This is obvious to Blind Freddie with the enormous support that Groups interested in seeing Justice done have received

The public have long memories Aussie and you can put your house on the fact that the Queensland Opposition will stick it right in the Government's eye when the next election campaign gets under way.

Women's victims groups in Queensland, will be queuing up to tar and feather the Government, even though it is the Judiciary who have f......d up this Appeal by downgrading the charges.

Yes Aussie I know your position on it but there are a whole lot of people out there that have seen Baden Clay tried and found guilty of Murder by a Jury of his Peers and those same people think the Appeal was a load of crap, including me.

But...the Public will blame the Government, mark my words.

Hear Hear!

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Reply #198 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:53pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

there are a whole lot of people out there that have seen Baden Clay tried and found guilty of Murder by a Jury of his Peers and those same people think the Appeal was a load of crap, including me.

Why, exactly, do you think the appeal was a load of crap?

Is it because it goes against what you personally believe (based purely on what you've seen in the media) or, is there something else that brings you to that conclusion?

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Reply #199 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:06pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

Two years is nothing in the Public's mind. It is my opinion that the Queensland Public are foaming mouthed furious with the f.....g ineptitude of the Queensland Judiciary over the Baden Clay affair.

This is obvious to Blind Freddie with the enormous support that Groups interested in seeing Justice done have received

The public have long memories Aussie and you can put your house on the fact that the Queensland Opposition will stick it right in the Government's eye when the next election campaign gets under way.

Women's victims groups in Queensland, will be queuing up to tar and feather the Government, even though it is the Judiciary who have f......d up this Appeal by downgrading the charges.

Yes Aussie I know your position on it but there are a whole lot of people out there that have seen Baden Clay tried and found guilty of Murder by a Jury of his Peers and those same people think the Appeal was a load of crap, including me.

But...the Public will blame the Government, mark my words.

I'm not coming into the hysteria. It plays no part in this process, and believe it or not, the issue is not as hot as the Courier Mail would have you believe. In fact, the 'Allison' mob had to link their protest to one about domestic violence in general to attract hijack an audience.

The Court of Appeal decision (linked by Alinta above) is not long. Read it, and then tell me where that Court's conclusions are incorrect or not open.

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Reply #200 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:19pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

The Court of Appeal decision (linked by Alinta above) is not long. Read it, and then tell me where that Court's conclusions are incorrect or not open.

They don't come to the same conclusions as Red.

i.e. the opinions he's formed after watching ACA, 60 Minutes, and the Channel 9 "News".

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Reply #201 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:22pm

here we go..Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:31pm:

I wonder if cods et al will accept the decision if the High Court (should there be an appeal ~ as opposed to yet another schmedia report there might be one) also concludes that a manslaughter conviction was the only one open, on the evidence?

the answer is NO......because it should go back to court..IMO.

MURDER SHOULD ALWAYS BE FOR A JURY TRIAL>>> NOT THE FACELESS>

Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

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I am surprised in this case they didnt blame Alison...for nagging maybe..

One of the possible reasons for the existence of 'her' fingernail scratches (if indeed that is what they were) on his face was that she may have come up behind him, clawed his face and in some instant reaction (not involving an intent to kill) of his, she died (remember also.....there is no evidence as to the cause of her death....so all reasonable bets are on.) I never did see any evidence of any tissue found under her nails or an explanation for the lack thereof.

well one thing I DO KNOW>> SHE DIDNT WALK TO THE BRIDGE AND JUMP OFF..

Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

I'm not coming into the hysteria. It plays no part in this process, and believe it or not, the issue is not as hot as the Courier Mail would have you believe. In fact, the 'Allison' mob had to link their protest to one about domestic violence in general to attract hijack an audience.

The Court of Appeal decision (linked by Alinta above) is not long. Read it, and then tell me where that Court's conclusions are incorrect or not open.

REALLY...

so a man kills his wife... or a wife kills her husband

in the family home and IT ISNT LINKED TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE...

so what else is it called..

oh wit a minute ..

if a faceless few say so. its just MANSLAUGHTER...

only in QUEENLAND>

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Reply #202 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

The Court of Appeal decision (linked by Alinta above) is not long. Read it, and then tell me where that Court's conclusions are incorrect or not open.

They don't come to the same conclusions as Red.

i.e. the opinions he's formed after watching ACA, 60 Minutes, and the Channel 9 "News".

really.... have you read alintas link...?>..

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Reply #203 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:26pm

cods wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:22pm:

here we go..Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 1:31pm:

I wonder if cods et al will accept the decision if the High Court (should there be an appeal ~ as opposed to yet another schmedia report there might be one) also concludes that a manslaughter conviction was the only one open, on the evidence?

the answer is NO......because it should go back to court..IMO.

It did, cods.

How many times do you need to be told?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139950 Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #204 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:36pm cods wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:22pm: the answer is NO......because it should go back to court..IMO. Court of Appeal High Court Do you notice something there, cods?
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Reply #205 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:37pm

cods wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

The Court of Appeal decision (linked by Alinta above) is not long. Read it, and then tell me where that Court's conclusions are incorrect or not open.

They don't come to the same conclusions as Red.

i.e. the opinions he's formed after watching ACA, 60 Minutes, and the Channel 9 "News".

really.... have you read alintas link...?>..

Have you? All of it? If so, can you point out where they erred? And what is this 'faceless' rubbish? They were/are Supreme Court Judges Homes, Fraser and Gotterson. I'll see if I can get some photos so you can stop with the 'faceless' garbage.

This is Holmes:

This is Fraser (is the bloke on the right:)

Gotterson:

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139950 Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #206 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:42pm Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:37pm: I'll see if I can get some photos so you can stop with the 'faceless' garbage. But, but ... 60 Minutes and ACA called them "faceless men".
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Reply #207 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:56pm

It appears that Red, cods, and Fireball have all run for the hills.

Thanks, Aussie, for ruining yet another thread by providing clearly thought out, logical arguments based on facts and readily available evidence that proves your point beyond all doubt, and completely shoots down the "arguments" of those who rely solely on ACA, 60 Minutes, and talk-back radio gossip.

You bastard.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21747 ACT Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #208 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 4:03pm I thought I read something the other day about the prosecution not persuing some particular point hard enough in the trial. Cant recall what it was at the moment. Therefore I would prefer a retrial to allow this, unless of course the prosecution believes they have a strong case for the appeal. Will watch with interest.
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Reply #209 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 4:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

It appears that Red, cods, and Fireball have all run for the hills.

Thanks, Aussie, for ruining yet another thread by providing clearly thought out, logical arguments based on facts and readily available evidence that proves your point beyond all doubt, and completely shoots down the "arguments" of those who rely solely on ACA, 60 Minutes, and talk-back radio gossip.

You bastard.

No need to thank me. It's what I learned at Graffiti School, the graduates of which Lord Herbert finds offensive because they are always ruining his Threads with cold hard facts as well.

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