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Reply #780 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Alinta wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:50pm:

At law, an accused is ALWAYS innocent until proven guilty.........

EVERYONE knows this. Roll Eyes

Except cods.

And Red Baron.

oh I thought I said I agree he is innocent.. of any wrong doing..

in fact I could swear he wasnt even there when she died.....if she died...well I am beginning to wonder if it was her??...the pathogist was hopeless no idea how she died...Gerard said he had nothing to do with it...so what the problem gweggy dont you like people agreeing with you..

he wasnt there... he didnt kill her lay a finger on her move her drive her away from the house.. he didnt do any of that...

so who agrees with me she jumped off the bridge...??

plain as day......Gerard went to be at 10 so couldnt have been him... I dont even know how they arrived at the manslaughter bit....

that a bit of a stretch you need to cause someone to die to be guilty of manslaughter

and as he said HE WASNT THERE...he went to bed she was watching TV.. boom next morning she up and gone....whats it got to do with him???...

he wasnt there I tell ya!

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Reply #781 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:56pm:

The person who did it is INNOCENT. UNTIL Proved GUILTY.

We don't know who did it until someone is found guilty.

Until then, everyone is innocent.

of course Gerard didnt do it.. nef.. please understand Gerard said he wasnt there and he should know...

she was watching TV he was in bed... he wasnt there I tell you..

these guys are right....if there is no evidence to say he was there..... then he wasnt...simple really..

did he clean up... no
did he drive the car with the girls asleep...no
did he kill his wife......no..

what more is there???...

safe bet he didnt do it..

wait a minute did they ask him IF HE INTEDED TO KILL HIS WIFE..

of course not.. this is a gentleman when he said NO to everything ... you dont ask again..

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Reply #782 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 5:46pm

Neferti wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:10pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Alinta wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:50pm:

At law, an accused is ALWAYS innocent until proven guilty.........

EVERYONE knows this. Roll Eyes

Except cods.

And Red Baron.

Sucking up to Arsie won't get you FREE legal advice, Gregg. Wink

Arsie only does Queensland Legal stuff.

Ask him about Federal LAW or WA Law and he has to Google, the same as the rest of us. I am (still) au fait with the ACT Law, for example. Arsie seemingly knows Queensland Law.

Yeah. you are the font of all knowledge. Tell us about the 'Lord's Prayer' and the Constitution again. That was a ripper example of you being 'au fait.'

That sounds interesting.

It was.

If I recall, arshole and I had a "discussion" about the Opening Of PARLIAMENT and I said that the "Lords Prayer" was part of the "pomp and ceremony" ... somehow the CONSTITUTION (which says eff-all) got into the "discussion". Instead of saying it was "in the Constitution" I should have said that the LORD's PRAYER for was part of TRADITION

shock horror nef... you should have said

YOU READ IT ON FACEBOOK...

gweggy only gets his infor from FACEBOOK.. I

wouldnt trust anything like the constitution...load of old rubbish written by men a hundred years ago.

if you told them you got that info on FACEBOOK they would have believed it...take my word for it nef gweggy is a devotee of facebook..

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Alinta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1470 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #783 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11pm "alinta.. I will let you answer aussie he has a lot of respect for you and none for me.... I can also shoot holes through his clap trap but I cant be bothered...." I know this is not the answer you want Cods, but I don't see anything there to shoot down........
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #784 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:15pm Alinta wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:11pm: "alinta.. I will let you answer aussie he has a lot of respect for you and none for me.... I can also shoot holes through his clap trap but I cant be bothered...." I know this is not the answer you want Cods, but I don't see anything there to shoot down........ really... ok..
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Reply #785 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:17am

No Aussie, you're not in good company.

You're in the company of three blithering idiots who couldn't work out the simple equation

Gerard Baden-Clay murders Allison Baden-Clay = Gerard Baden Clay gains $967,000 from her insurance and is free of her into the bargain.

Even a 12 year old kid could work that out but not the three wise monkeys....nor you Aussie.

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Reply #786 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:40am

red baron wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

No Aussie, you're not in good company.

You're in the company of three blithering idiots who couldn't work out the simple equation

Gerard Baden-Clay murders Allison Baden-Clay = Gerard Baden Clay gains $967,000 from her insurance and is free of her into the bargain.

Even a 12 year old kid could work that out but not the three wise monkeys....nor you Aussie.

I have no doubt he had a motive......but that does not prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill.

What will your excuse be if the High Court knocks the Appeal out? Call those Judges 'blithering idiots' as well?

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Reply #787 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:44am

Aussie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

red baron wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

No Aussie, you're not in good company.

You're in the company of three blithering idiots who couldn't work out the simple equation

Gerard Baden-Clay murders Allison Baden-Clay = Gerard Baden Clay gains $967,000 from her insurance and is free of her into the bargain.

Even a 12 year old kid could work that out but not the three wise monkeys....nor you Aussie.

I have no doubt he had a motive......but that does not prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill.

What will your excuse be if the High Court knocks the Appeal out? Call those Judges 'blithering idiots' as well?

Of course he will.

Red's Law:

Courts make a decision that Red agrees with = court system is working fine.

Court system makes a decision that Red disagrees with = court system is useless.

He made up his find the first time he saw Clay on ACA, and nothing in the world was ever going to change his views on this matter.

It's frightening to think that people like Red and cods could one day be called up to serve on a jury.

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Reply #788 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:55am

red baron wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

No Aussie, you're not in good company.

You're in the company of three blithering idiots who couldn't work out the simple equation

Gerard Baden-Clay murders Allison Baden-Clay = Gerard Baden Clay gains $967,000 from her insurance and is free of her into the bargain.

Even a 12 year old kid could work that out but not the three wise monkeys....nor you Aussie.

Red, forget the rubbish being thrown about by online nobodies.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2016/01/04/baden-clay-appeal-applicat...

Mr Byrne's application, filed on Monday, seeks High Court orders to either dismiss the lower court's ruling or order a re-hearing of Baden-Clay's appeal.

He argues the Court of Appeal erred in applying the principles of circumstantial evidence, and in partly basing its decision on a factual assertion which was not established by evidence.

The DPP also contends the Court of Appeal erred in concluding Baden-Clay's post-offence conduct, which included dumping her body and lying about scratches on his face, did not prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill or do grievous bodily harm to Allison.

Bottom line? We will need to WAIT.

I am cautiously optimistic about the outcome of THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #789 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:25am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:55am: The DPP also contends the Court of Appeal erred in concluding Baden-Clay's post-offence conduct, which included dumping her body and lying about scratches on his face, did not prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill or do grievous bodily harm to Allison.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140118 Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #790 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:32am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:55am: I am cautiously optimistic about the outcome of THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. "optimistic"? Explain.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #791 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:34am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:32am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:55am: I am cautiously optimistic about the outcome of THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. "optimistic"? Explain. A few reasons. Well 2 main ones.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #792 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:37am http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/legal-affairs/absurd-gerard-badenclay-a... This does not LOOK promising.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140118 Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #793 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:40am So, you're hoping for an outcome that fits in best with your personal views, rather than an objectively just outcome - is that correct?
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Re: Baden Clay wins appeal.
Reply #794 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:44am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

I am cautiously optimistic about the outcome of THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.

"optimistic"?

Explain.

A few reasons.

Well 2 main ones.

I'll play your stupid game and ask ...... what are the '2 main ones.'

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