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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #255 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 5:55pm Aussie tells porkies. About EVERYTHING. I only tell lies about my "profession" to stop stalkers, like Aussie.
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Reply #256 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 5:55pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

Well that's the biggest load of crap I've read from you Aussie...Why you'll believe that black is white once Aussie gets through with you.

Yeah ....SURE Baden Clay rang to get to get premiums reduced.

Or...could it be that he wanted those premiums paid up to the knocker so that he could claim his million bucks once he did his wife in. (Which he did - or at least according to a jury of his peers he did)

Good question. And the answer is equivocal.....takes us nowhere. That is the point you are just not willing to acknowledge in the cold light of legal day.

It's great schmedia grist for the hysterics, but..............just useless where it really counts.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139947 Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #257 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:06pm Neferti wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 5:55pm: Aussie tells porkies. About EVERYTHING. I only tell lies about my "profession" to stop stalkers, like Aussie. You admit that you tell lies. Thus, we can't believe anything you say. Not even "I only tell lies about my 'profession' to stop stalkers". Understand?
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Reply #258 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:08pm

Do you believe in Coincidence?..If you break that word up...it reads...Co - incide.

Like this piece from the summary of the Appeal:

Leaves from different species of plants were found about Mrs BadenClay’s body. A botanist gave evidence that they included four species – crepe myrtle, cat’s claw creeper, fishbone fern and lilly pilly – which he was able to identify in the Baden-Clays ’ garden, but not in the immediate vicinity of the Kholo Creek site where the body was found. Some leaves of the cat’s claw creeper, the fern and the crepe myrtle were entwined in her hair. The crepe myrtle leaves were fallen leaves, the fern leaves were a mix of live and fallen leaves, and one of the cat’s claw creeper leaves appeared to have been pulled from a live plant. Cat’s claw creeper was growing about the carport of the Baden-Clay home, while leaf litter from the crepe myrtle and fern were found in the carport and the patio area of the house near its back door.

I men let's face it, it reads like it has been lifted from a CSI episode, only there's nothing cute about the outcome of this episode.

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Reply #259 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:10pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:08pm:

Do you believe in Coincidence?..If you break that word up...it reads...Co - incide.

Like this piece from the summary of the Appeal:

Leaves from different species of plants were found about Mrs BadenClay’s body. A botanist gave evidence that they included four species – crepe myrtle, cat’s claw creeper, fishbone fern and lilly pilly – which he was able to identify in the Baden-Clays ’ garden, but not in the immediate vicinity of the Kholo Creek site where the body was found. Some leaves of the cat’s claw creeper, the fern and the crepe myrtle were entwined in her hair. The crepe myrtle leaves were fallen leaves, the fern leaves were a mix of live and fallen leaves, and one of the cat’s claw creeper leaves appeared to have been pulled from a live plant. Cat’s claw creeper was growing about the carport of the Baden-Clay home, while leaf litter from the crepe myrtle and fern were found in the carport and the patio area of the house near its back door.

I men let's face it, it reads like it has been lifted from a CSI episode, only there's nothing cute about the outcome of this episode.

Ah, I see: Red watches CSI.

Things are starting to make sense now.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #260 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:13pm Takes us nowhere does it Mr. Legal Expert? I would call a million dollar payday very high motivation indeed, when you are going down the financial gurglar and there is that million dollar jackpot just sitting there and all you have to do is just reach out....and grab it.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139947 Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #261 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:14pm red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:13pm: Takes us nowhere does it Mr. Legal Expert? I take it that you've watched more episodes of CSI than Aussie.
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Reply #262 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:16pm

Neferti wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

Aussie tells porkies. About EVERYTHING.

I only tell lies about my "profession" to stop stalkers, like Aussie.

In that case.....you have lied about being a retired engineer, as well as the rest.......including...............................(nah, I don't need to go on. I'm content that the majority of people here have woken up to your PA garbage.)

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Reply #263 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:18pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Takes us nowhere does it Mr. Legal Expert?

I would call a million dollar payday very high motivation indeed, when you are going down the financial gurglar and there is that million dollar jackpot just sitting there and all you have to do is just reach out....and grab it.

Gee.....I just can't work out why one Crown Prosecutor, one Trial Judge and three Appeal Court Judges allowed that one to fall through the cracks. They all suck, I guess.

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Reply #264 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:21pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:08pm:

Do you believe in Coincidence?..If you break that word up...it reads...Co - incide.

Like this piece from the summary of the Appeal:

Leaves from different species of plants were found about Mrs BadenClay’s body. A botanist gave evidence that they included four species – crepe myrtle, cat’s claw creeper, fishbone fern and lilly pilly – which he was able to identify in the Baden-Clays ’ garden, but not in the immediate vicinity of the Kholo Creek site where the body was found. Some leaves of the cat’s claw creeper, the fern and the crepe myrtle were entwined in her hair. The crepe myrtle leaves were fallen leaves, the fern leaves were a mix of live and fallen leaves, and one of the cat’s claw creeper leaves appeared to have been pulled from a live plant. Cat’s claw creeper was growing about the carport of the Baden-Clay home, while leaf litter from the crepe myrtle and fern were found in the carport and the patio area of the house near its back door.

I men let's face it, it reads like it has been lifted from a CSI episode, only there's nothing cute about the outcome of this episode.

Why are you running some scenario based on the fiction that Allison is not dead? She is. We all know that. Problem is.....we do not know if, when or where she died, her Husband intended to kill her. It boils down to that simple concept.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #265 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:25pm The scenario I'm running, is to clear the mud from the water that Lawyerspeak has put there. And demonstrate that it is as clear as the hand on the end of your arm that Baden Clay had great motivation and opportunity to Murder his wife..,.,which he clearly did.
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Reply #266 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:26pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Takes us nowhere does it Mr. Legal Expert?

I would call a million dollar payday very high motivation indeed, when you are going down the financial gurglar and there is that million dollar jackpot just sitting there and all you have to do is just reach out....and grab it.

Gee.....I just can't work out why one Crown Prosecutor, one Trial Judge and three Appeal Court Judges allowed that one to fall through the cracks. They all suck, I guess.

Red owns the complete box set of CSI.

The judges do not.

Need I say more?

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Baden Clay wins appeal. Reply #267 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:30pm Hi Gregg, would much prefer that you stuck to the facts old stick. I mean just how much in all your posts on this is concentrated on the facts of the case and how much is your version of Hollywood. Just been going back through your posts and they read like Days of our lives.
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Reply #268 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:33pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

The scenario I'm running, is to clear the mud from the water that Lawyerspeak has put there.

And demonstrate that it is as clear as the hand on the end of your arm that Baden Clay had great motivation and opportunity to Murder his wife..,.,which he clearly did.

I reckon Qld ought get you to run the High Court appeal. It'll be over in a flash. Makes it much cheaper for us.

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Reply #269 - Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:35pm

red baron wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 6:30pm:

Hi Gregg, would much prefer that you stuck to the facts old stick. I mean just how much in all your posts on this is concentrated on the facts of the case and how much is your version of Hollywood. Just been going back through your posts and they read like Days of our lives.

All I'm doing, is sticking to the facts.

I'm here to debate you on that, if you have the guts (or if you can drag yourself away from CSI).

Up to you, old boy.

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