Fair enough Aussie, it looked like a kosher site. Perhaps you might grace this thread with the Qld version.

Incidentally I've just been reading a post you put up some time ago,  from a Qld News Paper, certain things in it grabbed me. :

Updated 9 Dec 2015, 12:42am


Allison Baden-Clay and Gerard Baden-Clay
Photo: Allison Baden-Clay was reported missing by her husband Gerard in April 2012. (Supplied)

Related Story: Timeline of Baden-Clay trial



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Former Brisbane real estate agent Gerard Baden-Clay's murder conviction for killing his wife Allison has been downgraded to manslaughter.

The Court of Appeal set aside the murder finding, saying there was not enough evidence to prove he intended to kill the mother-of-three in 2012.

During Baden-Clay's appeal four months ago, his lawyers argued it was possible he could have unintentionally killed his wife during an argument at their home in Brookfield, in Brisbane's west.

His lawyers then suggested a hypothesis that he covered up the death out of "panic".

During the 2014 trial, Baden-Clay denied killing Allison and said scratches on his face were caused by shaving.

In response to the appeal court's ruling, Acting Attorney-General Cameron Dick said he was seeking legal advice on whether the Court of Appeal ruling could be challenged.

"I have requested legal advice about the prospects of success on an appeal against the decision of the Court of Appeal involving Gerard Baden-Clay," he said in a statement.

"Once that advice has been received and considered, a decision will be made as to whether an appeal should be lodged.

"The Attorney-General must make a decision on any possible appeal within 28 days."

In the judgement handed down on Tuesday, the Court of Appeal said while Baden-Clay lied about the cause of scratches on his face and tried to hide his wife's body, there was a reasonable hypothesis he was innocent of murder.

Face of Gerard Baden-Clay, showing injuries (released March 20 2013)

The marks on the face of Gerard Baden-Clay after his wife's death. (Supplied: Queensland Courts.)
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Marks on face of Gerard Baden-Clay (photo released March 20, 2013)

The Supreme Court released the photos during the trial. (Supplied: Queensland Courts)
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Torso of Gerard Baden-Clay, showing chest marks (uploaded March 20, 2013)

Lawyers for Baden-Clay hypothesised he unintentionally killed Allison during an argument. (Supplied: Queensland Courts.)
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Gerard Baden-Clay's hands

Scratches on the hands of Gerard Baden-Clay. (AAP: Queensland Courts)
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Gallery: Gerard Baden-Clay's injuries



It could not be ruled out that there was a physical confrontation in which Allison fell and hit her head, the ruling by Chief Justice Catherine Holmes, Justice Hugh Fraser and Justice Robert Gotterson found.

"Smothering, the crown's thesis, was a reasonable possibility, but while there was also another reasonable possibility available on the evidence, the jury could not properly have been satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the element of intent to kill or do grievous bodily harm had been proved," Justice Fraser wrote in Tuesday's findings.

Baden-Clay, 45, reported his wife missing in April 2012 and her body was found 10 days later beside a creek.

He was convicted last year and jailed for life, with a non-parole period of 15 years.

New sentencing submissions for the manslaughter conviction will be heard in January.

From Red Baron: I did a double take at the hypothesising that has gone on by the Judges during their deliberations.

Gerard Baden-Clay 'could have done this and could have done that'

What were they thinking?????????

On the basis that they think he may have killed her accidentally, they have watered down his charges.

Baden-Clay has been as silent as a tomb, so on the whim of the Judges who think 'he may have done this or may have done that they have reduced a Murder finding to a Manslaughter charge, where he will most probably do 6 years.

Not bad for killing your wife.

If that is Justice we might as well just go grab a gun and take our own Justice out on anyone who murdered one of our loved ones, I'm sure we could get our charge watered down to Manslaughter. Particularly if it was in the deep north - (Qld).

The Judges hypothesized and the Defence Lawyers weakened the seams.

Then the decision by Jury was gutted and sent to the bottom of the ocean.

Then 'the three wise monkeys' hypothesized their way into believing that Gerard Baden-Clay 'accidentally killed his wife'.

Is this the Law at work? If so, then the Law is a bloody joke.



How can these three wise monkeys came to this decision is a bigger mystery than the Bermuda triangle. Where is the evidence that he 'accidentally killed her'. There isn't one shred.



So...they are saying there is sufficient evidence to say he accidentally killed her but not enough to say he murdered her.



You can't have it both ways wise monkeys.



He either did or he didn't murder her. The Jury have said he did.



Then  the three wise monkeys swept it aside for some convoluted crock of sh.t decision of Manslaughter...don't know what that is but it ain't Justice for Allison Baden-Clay.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 3:17pm:


Surely, if I keep trying often enough, they will see what really is a very simple point?