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Reply #16 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:50am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:01am:

It would mean rewriting the US Constitution, as it doesn't allow the State to make judgements on people based on their religious persuasion. Besides, passports specifically do not list religion. How would Customs officials at border points know who is and isn't Muslim?

Precisely. You would need to close all the border points and start dealing in tourist visas from everywhere again.

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Reply #17 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

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Reply #18 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:11am

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

Look at the greens, ignoring the blatant disregard to human rights, and the blatant corruption, in Indonesia, all for the sake of some money.

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Reply #19 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:11am

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

What would Greens do?

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Reply #20 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:19am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

Look at the greens, ignoring the blatant disregard to human rights, and the blatant corruption, in Indonesia, all for the sake of some money.

So the death penalty is a driving factor on how we enact with the world.
Can we now pull out of all trade, all trade pacts with the US involved, the coalition bombing civilians in Syria and Iraq ... since the US execute their own.

Why just muslim countries who execute people?

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Reply #21 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:19am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

What would Greens do?

On which issue?

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Reply #22 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:22am

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

As long as they're here for only a few days and must check in at their local police station for a routine daily pat-down and intensive cavity search - we can make an exception with these little Darkies. Cool

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Reply #23 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:49am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:22am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

As long as they're here for only a few days and must check in at their local police station for a routine daily pat-down and intensive cavity search - we can make an exception with these little Darkies. Cool

So you want to cavity search muslims. Now we could be moving closer to the core issue. Islamophobia is because conservatives have had their sexual advances rejected by muslims?

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Reply #24 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:53am

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

Look at the greens, ignoring the blatant disregard to human rights, and the blatant corruption, in Indonesia, all for the sake of some money.

So the death penalty is a driving factor on how we enact with the world.
Can we now pull out of all trade, all trade pacts with the US involved, the coalition bombing civilians in Syria and Iraq ... since the US execute their own.

Why just muslim countries who execute people?

Where did I say just Muslim people? I'm very much happy to see the world economy being used as a driving factor for proper human rights and democracy. Otherwise what is the point? For the greens to be outraged about poverty but at the same time demand cheap shirts from Bangladesh?

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Reply #25 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:55am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

Look at the greens, ignoring the blatant disregard to human rights, and the blatant corruption, in Indonesia, all for the sake of some money.

So the death penalty is a driving factor on how we enact with the world.
Can we now pull out of all trade, all trade pacts with the US involved, the coalition bombing civilians in Syria and Iraq ... since the US execute their own.

Why just muslim countries who execute people?

Where did I say just Muslim people? I'm very much happy to see the world economy being used as a driving factor for proper human rights and democracy. Otherwise what is the point? For the greens to be outraged about poverty but at the same time demand cheap shirts from Bangladesh?

Now you are making things up.

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Reply #26 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:55am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:04am:

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 5:22am:

I think that if any party said that they would ban Muslims from coming into their country they'd get a huge boost in the polls

Oh yes indeed.

Donald Trump just played his ... er .. trump card to boost his ratings in the race to the White House - and boy, aren't the Lefties going ballistic over this.

It's like beating a wasps nest with a stick. They are ANGRY ... and they are SWARMING ...

He's being demonised, crucified, and pilloried as no presidential hopeful before him except maybe George Wallace.

The fact is that Muslim immigration has brought with it a biblical plague upon Western societies as no other immigrant group has.

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Not just the left.

David Cameron
Ben Carson
The Pentagon
Paul Ryan
Jeb Bush
Nigel Farage

Amoung others

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Reply #27 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:01am

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:55am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

Look at the greens, ignoring the blatant disregard to human rights, and the blatant corruption, in Indonesia, all for the sake of some money.

So the death penalty is a driving factor on how we enact with the world.
Can we now pull out of all trade, all trade pacts with the US involved, the coalition bombing civilians in Syria and Iraq ... since the US execute their own.

Why just muslim countries who execute people?

Where did I say just Muslim people? I'm very much happy to see the world economy being used as a driving factor for proper human rights and democracy. Otherwise what is the point? For the greens to be outraged about poverty but at the same time demand cheap shirts from Bangladesh?

Now you are making things up.

You're the one happy to ignore Indonesia's bullsh1t on the basis of money. Not me.

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Reply #28 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:07am

Kytro wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:55am:

Not just the left.

David Cameron
Ben Carson
The Pentagon
Paul Ryan
Jeb Bush
Nigel Farage

Amoung others

David Cameron is a Lefty through and through. Don't be fooled by the 'Conservative' label. The UK's Conservative Party died a long time ago before even Thatcher arrived on the scene to sign Britain up to losing its sovereignty to the European parliament and law courts.

It might take a few more Home Grown bombings and mutilations for these cowardly "Peace in our Time" junkies to ditch their political correctness and admit to what everybody else knows to be a curse upon Western civilisation : Immigrant Islam.

(PS. At least Thatcher had enough character in later years to apologies for her treacherous sell-out of Britain's sovereign independence to the continental Europeans. It wouldn't have saved her from the executioner's rope if my party had been in power, of course, but at least she showed some sort of remorse towards the end).

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Reply #29 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:16am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:01am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:55am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

____ wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Would this ban include muslim tourists, muslim entrepreneurs and muslim diplomats from countries like Indonesia?

You mean a country that went nuts in celebrations over the killing of reformed people?

The same country who could be our largest trading partner in a few decades due to it's massive (mostly muslim) population and situated location. Are Australian conservative planning on cutting their financial security nose off to spite their muslim hating face?

Look at the greens, ignoring the blatant disregard to human rights, and the blatant corruption, in Indonesia, all for the sake of some money.

So the death penalty is a driving factor on how we enact with the world.
Can we now pull out of all trade, all trade pacts with the US involved, the coalition bombing civilians in Syria and Iraq ... since the US execute their own.

Why just muslim countries who execute people?

Where did I say just Muslim people? I'm very much happy to see the world economy being used as a driving factor for proper human rights and democracy. Otherwise what is the point? For the greens to be outraged about poverty but at the same time demand cheap shirts from Bangladesh?

Now you are making things up.

You're the one happy to ignore Indonesia's bullsh1t on the basis of money. Not me.

You are cherry picking issues while ignoring the bigger picture. Closer engagement with Indonesia puts Australia in a better position to influence change as equals. Far superior path than your implication of wanting Australia to be a colonial dictator, demanding Indonesia to do as they are told, or else.
Meanwhile you are making up things like the high lighted section.

Now back to what you tried to divert from.

Do conservatives think diplomats from muslim countries should be banned from Australia too?

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