issuevoter wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:26pm:


We all have access to paradise, Issue but only if we seek it first, in this life. A life of sadness, bitterness and futility only leads to hell.

A life of wonder leads to paradise, as every school child knows.

You wonder why muslims are incessantly killing people? muslims non muslims, it makes no difference, the killings go on.

The  meaning  of  islam  is  submission  to  the  will  of
allah.

islam divides the world into dar al-islam, literally the house or region of submission, those lands under  muslim / sharia  government 

The remainder is called  dar  al-harb,  the house or region of war, those lands where muslims (as you think a muslim should be) are  in  the  minority.

This differentiation between people does not only mean muslim and non muslim.

Any muslims who lives under a dissimilar code (don't submit to allah exactly the way you think they should) can be slotted into dar  al-harb.

The muslims who all live and want sharia law, consider muslims who are not totally committed to sharia to be in dar al-harb, hence the everlasting killing of each other.   

For  muslims  peace  cannot  be achieved untill the whole world is dar al-islam.

Until that time there will be conflict in dar al-harb.

The trouble is the pro sharia extremists are the higher grade of muslim according to islam and muslims and their apologists stay well away from doing something about the evil in the qur'an. 

As I've always said islam is divinely led by a doctrine of death and destruction.

There will never be peace on earth until muslims expunge the hatred and childish stupidity from their sacred texts.

Problem is they can't without destroying islam, so they are quiet happy for islamic sponsored human misery to run unabated, rather than acknowledge that islam, allah, muhammad and the qur'an simply are not acceptable in any decent 21st century civilized society.

islam is a 7th century handbook for committing human rights atrocities against any of your fellow man you differ with.

Google dar al-islam dar  al-harb

moses wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:


... Yadda is allowed to be out in public?

Yes.  Every day.

Yes,  Greggery, we all wonder why. We also wonder why we do not allow ourselves to be in private, within ourselves.

Coming to know thyself is the only way to paradise. The Kingdom, as we know, lies within. We must keep wondering why. Why?

Oh, we can fill our minds and our worlds with words. We can fill up our days with the words and deeds of others, blaming evil-doers, blaming justice, blaming God Himself. We can point out the mote in the eye of our brother, because it’s all so hard to cast out the beam in our own.

But we can only change by wondering why. Yes, why do we allow ourselves to be in public? But why not in private, within ourselves?

God may take away our hands, our tongues, our eyes. But we are all still free to wonder why.

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:30pm:





greggery,

I do not want to restrict expression, and free and open debate,          .....on a public forum.

I want people to tell me their point of view,       .....and i want them to defend it, if they can,         .....in free and open debate.

The expression of IDEAS, in an environment of free and open debate, is politically healthy.

Free and open debate,        ....is a contest of IDEAS !!!


e.g.
A person like ?

If you disagree with his opinions and views, express that disagreement.

But don't try to gag him, don't try to silence his views, his opinion,      by shouting him down, or by denying him a forum to speak.

If you disagree with his opinions and views, debate him, DEFEAT HIM IN FREE AND OPEN DEBATE,        ....if you think that your own opinion and views, are superior to his.







QUESTION;

Why would you do that ???

Why would you support that kind of political 'climate' or political 'environment' ???

A political 'environment', where only the powerful and only those who are 'approved',     ....are allowed to express an opinion ???



greggery,

That is how DICTATORS and DICTATORSHIPS 'work'.

That is how FASCISTS and FASCIST GOVERNMENTS 'work'.

They seize political power,         .....and then they shut down all public expression which could be critical of their rule, and of their conduct.




greggery,

Again, you are a FASCIST BIGOT.

That is what is in your heart.

i.e.
Murder.

That is the way to silence people, and every fascist knows that.

Intellectual giant ????

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:18pm:







An example of this is happening today, right in front of our eyes !!

Turkey.