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Re: Ever wondered why?
Reply #60 - Dec 12th, 2015 at 7:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm:
Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm:
Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.       


Yes.

Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society.

I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets.


You are not locked up for being Insane yet and are still on the streets.
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Reply #61 - Dec 17th, 2015 at 2:55pm
 
Ever wondered why muslims are able to carry out the most inhumane of atrocities against their fellow man, actually go into a euphoric stupor while perpetrating these depravities against human beings?

A group of pagans carrying out their 7th century blood lusts without blinking an eye.

Fanaticism at it's evil worst, with talking rocks and trees:



The Black Stone called al-Hajar-ul-Aswad

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone:
“By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Sahih Bukhari 4:56:784
The Prophet used to stand by a tree or a date-palm on Friday. Then an
Ansari woman or man said. "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we make a pulpit for you?" He replied, "If you wish." So they made a pulpit for him and when it was Friday, he proceeded towards the pulpit (for delivering the sermon). The date-palm cried like a child! The Prophet descended (the pulpit) and embraced it while it continued moaning like a child being quieted. The Prophet said, "It was crying for (missing) what it used to hear of religious knowledge given near to it.

Narrated Abu Huraira Sahih Bukhari 4:54:482:
Allah's Apostle said, "The (Hell) Fire complained to its Lord saying, 'O my Lord! My different parts eat up each other.' So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in summer, and this is the reason for the severe heat and the bitter cold you find (in weather)."

Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman Sahih Bukhari 5:58:199: 
"I asked Masruq, ‘Who informed the Prophet about the Jinns at the night when they heard the Qur'an?’ He said, ‘Your father ‘Abdullah informed me that a tree informed the Prophet about them.’"

Sahih Muslim 30:5654:
Jabir b. Samura reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I recognise the stone in Mecca which used to pay me salutations before my advent as a Prophet and I recognise that even now.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981:
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.
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Reply #62 - Dec 17th, 2015 at 2:58pm
 
abdullah wrote on Dec 12th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm:
Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm:
Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.       


Yes.

Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society.

I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets.


You are not locked up .


Correct.  I'm sane.

Apologist.
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Reply #63 - Dec 17th, 2015 at 3:15pm
 
moses wrote on Dec 17th, 2015 at 2:55pm:
Ever wondered why muslims are able to carry out the most inhumane of atrocities against their fellow man, actually go into a euphoric stupor while perpetrating these depravities against human beings?

A group of pagans carrying out their 7th century blood lusts without blinking an eye.

Fanaticism at it's evil worst, with talking rocks and trees:



The Black Stone called al-Hajar-ul-Aswad

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone:
“By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Sahih Bukhari 4:56:784
The Prophet used to stand by a tree or a date-palm on Friday. Then an
Ansari woman or man said. "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we make a pulpit for you?" He replied, "If you wish." So they made a pulpit for him and when it was Friday, he proceeded towards the pulpit (for delivering the sermon). The date-palm cried like a child! The Prophet descended (the pulpit) and embraced it while it continued moaning like a child being quieted. The Prophet said, "It was crying for (missing) what it used to hear of religious knowledge given near to it.

Narrated Abu Huraira Sahih Bukhari 4:54:482:
Allah's Apostle said, "The (Hell) Fire complained to its Lord saying, 'O my Lord! My different parts eat up each other.' So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in summer, and this is the reason for the severe heat and the bitter cold you find (in weather)."

Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman Sahih Bukhari 5:58:199: 
"I asked Masruq, ‘Who informed the Prophet about the Jinns at the night when they heard the Qur'an?’ He said, ‘Your father ‘Abdullah informed me that a tree informed the Prophet about them.’"

Sahih Muslim 30:5654:
Jabir b. Samura reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I recognise the stone in Mecca which used to pay me salutations before my advent as a Prophet and I recognise that even now.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981:
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.


We all wonder why, Moses. The great religious texts help us to ponder, but we do the wondering ourselves.

It is truly a wondrous world.
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Reply #64 - Dec 17th, 2015 at 3:47pm
 
arrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone:
“By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”


over 1500 of these pagan half-wits were crushed to death this year alone, let alone the hundreds more that were injured, trying to ingratiate themselves with a stone that is going to get eyes and a tongue in order testify for their benefit.

What a bunch of heathenish imbeciles.

But then again muslims and their aploogists won't have it any other way.
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Reply #65 - Dec 17th, 2015 at 4:47pm
 
We must keep wondering, Moses. We must never stop. We live, love and wonder why. Man does not live on.bread alone, but by the very breath of God.
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Reply #66 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 3:05pm
 
Ever wondered why muslims are trapped in their blood lust?

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

muhammad, claiming to be an apostle of allah, was able to take the arabs and instill religious fanaticism into their daily lives turning them into a zombie like death cult, rape, torture and murder the norm against all men muslim or non muslim.

This death cult has been with us now for almost 1400 years.

muhammad"s modus operandi involved an aggressive “bloody-sword” ideology. The sword” became “the key to heaven and hell,” and whoever died in battle received pardon from all sin and entered into the joys of a sensual paradise (allah's brothel in the sky filled with houri's with big breasts).

The blood sword ideology practiced in all muslim nations. Right now today (2015), in countries where islam prevails, persecution against non-muslims is rampant.

muslim terrorist rapists torturers and mass murderers are not an expression of muslim radicalism; it is islam in its purest form.

It's the fruition of“his hand against every man”!

Satanic muslims fulfilling their biblical destiny

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I read the below on the net, seems spot on to me

The Curse of Cain

Posted by Daniel Greenfield Monday June 30  2014

Here

After Cain killed his brother, the Lord told him, "A fugitive and a wanderer shalt thou be in the earth."

But the natural order has been reversed, instead the Abels, if they survive, become homeless wanderers and the Cains build their Caliphates on the tombs of their victims.

"Cursed shall you be from the earth," the Lord said, and so it has been. 

The earth under their feet may be cursed, it yields nothing but sand and thistles, but they are nomads, forgetting agriculture, remembering only their tradecraft of murder. They become worshipers of death dreaming of the green verdant fields of paradise which they can reach only if they kill enough men, women and children.

Leaving devastation behind them, dead lands, lost cultures, widows and orphans, they claw their way up to heaven on a ladder of bones.

Everything around them dies until the only green is on their flags. They are cursed from the earth and they curse the earth. Where they go, the world dies.

It is not murder that makes it impossible for Abel to live with Cain says the State Department, says the European Union and says the New York Times. It is Abel's fields and houses that provoke Cain.

The PLO formed a unity government with Hamas and the loud voice of consensus, the voice of men who imagine that they become god when they speak in a single voice, is that it was the Israeli houses that were to blame. It is not Cain's fault that he kills. It is Abel's fault that he builds.

Of the three kidnapped and murdered boys, two Israeli and one American, Jodi Rudoren of the New York Times wrote, "Palestinians... see the very act of attending (school) yeshiva in a West Bank settlement as provocation."

Abel is forever provoking Cain who rises up and kills him. And if only Abel hadn't had so many sheep, if only he hadn't built so well, if only he hadn't made the desert bloom, if only he hadn't won so many wars and if only G-d didn't appear to favor him.

Cain sows fields of corpses of the innocent for the Lord and he still does not understand why his sacrifice is not accepted and why the earth he dwells on is cursed.

Abel does his best to appease Cain with gifts of earth, but the earth is useless to Cain. What good is cursed earth to cursed men? What can a man plant in the desert? What can he harvest when everything dies at his touch? All he can offer is a harvest of death.

That is what he brings to the faintly remembered Creator he calls Allah. From Iraq to Iran, from Kuwait to Saudi Arabia, from Nigeria to Somalia, from Pakistan to Indonesia, he holds up human heads and cries, "Allahu Akbar."

As if G-d needs such petty proofs of superiority.

Cain cannot be appeased with earth. The earth is his curse. All that lives hates him and he hates all that lives. He tortures animals and raises dead crops. He kills his daughters and sisters, his mother, the source of his life and the source of his future, for the same honor that made Cain the first killer.

There is no use negotiating with Cain. There is no compromise that he will accept. Cain is his own curse. He loves death and that is all he will ever have. His acolytes cry, "We love death, you love life."

Cain was meant to wander the earth. To be a rootless nomad whose curse of death would not collect in any single place. He was not meant to build kingdoms of death. He was not meant to rule over a Caliphate of death and a culture of death.

There is no room for Cain anywhere. Where he remains there will be death and suffering. He will kill because it is all he can do. He has nothing else to offer the world, his own kind or the Creator.

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The curse of the earth that he brings can only be lifted when he is removed from it. Only when Cain is driven out, will the land come into its fullness, will the people know peace and will the shadow lift from the valleys, mountains, rivers and cities of the land.

Cain seeks sympathy in his wanderings. With bloody hands, he pleads his case. Every one of his victims made him do it. From the east to the west and the north to the south, they all started it.

He kills from one end of the world to the next and it is never his fault. Each time, each Abel did it.

That is why the Lord put the mark of the killer on Cain's forehead. All were meant to know what Cain was and to move him along, prevent him from settling down, becoming offended and killing over his long lost honor, and then beginning a war that would lead to his own death and the deaths of others.

Cain was not to be killed. It was no use killing him because all men have a little Cain in them. The curse of Cain infects in many forms. Nazism, Communism and Islam are only a few examples of the disease. Instead Cain was meant to be a living example of the futility of evil. His accursed nature made him into a living symbol of death. Each thing he touched would be cursed by his existence.

When we remember what Cain is, when we know what his signs, the swastika, the sickle and the crescent, represent, then he is no threat to us.

We move him onward, we cast him out and drive him away before he kills us and we kill him and the cycle of bloodshed that he starts everywhere he goes begins again.

It is when we forget that he becomes truly dangerous. When Abel and Cain cannot be told apart, then Cain can pretend that he is the victim and that Abel was the killer. The blood soaks into the earth and he washes his hands of it and pretends that he knows nothing about it. Men begin playing detectives, they search for the root cause of Cain's crimes and try to understand what provoked him this time.

But even when the Lord does not speak to men, the blood can still be heard crying from the earth. A thousand years of blood, the blood of men, women and children from every race and every part of the world.

Cain has made a mountain of corpses. His Caliphate was built on bones. His code is cruelty and his holy book is written in blood on the flayed skins of his murdered victims.

A thousand years of blood calls from the earth. The cries of peoples long vanished from the earth warn us that we will either drive out Cain or his curse will fill our lands with blood and dust and all that we love and all that we have worked for will die at his cursed touch.
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Reply #68 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 3:34pm
 
Yes, Moses, we’ve all wondered why. Why did our Saviour ask His Father to forgive them for they know not what they do?

Why do you think thiswas, Moses? I do wonder.
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Reply #69 - Dec 28th, 2015 at 2:46pm
 
Didn't Christ have a specific purpose here on earth? The finalization of the law? Whereby mankind entered into a new era of justification by faith?

Wasn't Christ the antithesis of all that islam  / muslims stand for?

muslims by their own volition are the cursed on this earth, they are the satanic Cains of this world.

A threat and burden to all mankind.

1400 years of blind fanaticism following a deformed psychopath, whipping themselves into a blood crazed euphoria each and every time they get the chance to commit the foulest of atrocities against their fellow man.


pure islam in action
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Good wondering, Moses. Maybe one day we will understand.
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Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:15pm:
Good wondering, Moses. Maybe one day we will understand.



You are a parody of yourself, PB, and all the other PC useless idiots.

"One day we will understand" = "We have no enemies, only friends whose grievences we haven't yet accommodated".

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Reply #72 - Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:50pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:36pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:15pm:
Good wondering, Moses. Maybe one day we will understand.



You are a parody of yourself, PB, and all the other PC useless idiots.

"One day we will understand" = "We have no enemies, only friends whose grievences we haven't yet accommodated".



You wonder too, dear chap. Do you know what you are?

You’re a seeker.
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Reply #73 - Dec 28th, 2015 at 7:48pm
 
moses wrote on Dec 17th, 2015 at 2:55pm:
Ever wondered why muslims are able to carry out the most inhumane of atrocities against their fellow man, actually go into a euphoric stupor while perpetrating these depravities against human beings?

A group of pagans carrying out their 7th century blood lusts without blinking an eye.

Fanaticism at it's evil worst, with talking rocks and trees:



The Black Stone called al-Hajar-ul-Aswad

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone:
“By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Sahih Bukhari 4:56:784
The Prophet used to stand by a tree or a date-palm on Friday. Then an
Ansari woman or man said. "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we make a pulpit for you?" He replied, "If you wish." So they made a pulpit for him and when it was Friday, he proceeded towards the pulpit (for delivering the sermon). The date-palm cried like a child! The Prophet descended (the pulpit) and embraced it while it continued moaning like a child being quieted. The Prophet said, "It was crying for (missing) what it used to hear of religious knowledge given near to it.

Narrated Abu Huraira Sahih Bukhari 4:54:482:
Allah's Apostle said, "The (Hell) Fire complained to its Lord saying, 'O my Lord! My different parts eat up each other.' So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in summer, and this is the reason for the severe heat and the bitter cold you find (in weather)."

Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman Sahih Bukhari 5:58:199: 
"I asked Masruq, ‘Who informed the Prophet about the Jinns at the night when they heard the Qur'an?’ He said, ‘Your father ‘Abdullah informed me that a tree informed the Prophet about them.’"

Sahih Muslim 30:5654:
Jabir b. Samura reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I recognise the stone in Mecca which used to pay me salutations before my advent as a Prophet and I recognise that even now.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981:
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

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[quote author=moses link=1449724120/66#66 date=1451192759]Ever wondered why muslims are trapped in their blood lust?

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

muhammad, claiming to be an apostle of allah, was able to take the arabs and instill religious fanaticism into their daily lives turning them into a zombie like death cult, rape, torture and murder the norm against all men muslim or non muslim.

This death cult has been with us now for almost 1400 years.

muhammad"s modus operandi involved an aggressive “bloody-sword” ideology. The sword” became “the key to heaven and hell,” and whoever died in battle received pardon from all sin and entered into the joys of a sensual paradise (allah's brothel in the sky filled with houri's with big breasts).

The blood sword ideology practiced in all muslim nations. Right now today (2015), in countries where islam prevails, persecution against non-muslims is rampant.

muslim terrorist rapists torturers and mass murderers are not an expression of muslim radicalism; it is islam in its purest form.

It's the fruition of“his hand against every man”!

Satanic muslims fulfilling their biblical destiny

=====================================

I read the below on the net, seems spot on to me

The Curse of Cain

Posted by Daniel Greenfield Monday June 30  2014

Here

After Cain killed his brother, the Lord told him, "A fugitive and a wanderer shalt thou be in the earth."

But the natural order has been reversed, instead the Abels, if they survive, become homeless wanderers and the Cains build their Caliphates on the tombs of their victims.

"Cursed shall you be from the earth," the Lord said, and so it has been. 

The earth under their feet may be cursed, it yields nothing but sand and thistles, but they are nomads, forgetting agriculture, remembering only their tradecraft of murder. They become worshipers of death dreaming of the green verdant fields of paradise which they can reach only if they kill enough men, women and children.

Leaving devastation behind them, dead lands, lost cultures, widows and orphans, they claw their way up to heaven on a ladder of bones.

Everything around them dies until the only green is on their flags. They are cursed from the earth and they curse the earth. Where they go, the world dies.

It is not murder that makes it impossible for Abel to live with Cain says the State Department, says the European Union and says the New York Times. It is Abel's fields and houses that provoke Cain.

The PLO formed a unity government with Hamas and the loud voice of consensus, the voice of men who imagine that they become god when they speak in a single voice, is that it was the Israeli houses that were to blame. It is not Cain's fault that he kills. It is Abel's fault that he builds.

Of the three kidnapped and murdered boys, two Israeli and one American, Jodi Rudoren of the New York Times wrote, "Palestinians... see the very act of attending (school) yeshiva in a West Bank settlement as provocation."

Abel is forever provoking Cain who rises up and kills him. And if only Abel hadn't had so many sheep, if only he hadn't built so well, if only he hadn't made the desert bloom, if only he hadn't won so many wars and if only G-d didn't appear to favor him.

Cain sows fields of corpses of the innocent for the Lord and he still does not understand why his sacrifice is not accepted and why the earth he dwells on is cursed.

Abel does his best to appease Cain with gifts of earth, but the earth is useless to Cain. What good is cursed earth to cursed men? What can a man plant in the desert? What can he harvest when everything dies at his touch? All he can offer is a harvest of death.

That is what he brings to the faintly remembered Creator he calls Allah. From Iraq to Iran, from Kuwait to Saudi Arabia, from Nigeria to Somalia, from Pakistan to Indonesia, he holds up human heads and cries, "Allahu Akbar."

As if G-d needs such petty proofs of superiority.

Cain cannot be appeased with earth. The earth is his curse. All that lives hates him and he hates all that lives. He tortures animals and raises dead crops. He kills his daughters and sisters, his mother, the source of his life and the source of his future, for the same honor that made Cain the first killer.

There is no use negotiating with Cain. There is no compromise that he will accept. Cain is his own curse. He loves death and that is all he will ever have. His acolytes cry, "We love death, you love life."

Cain was meant to wander the earth. To be a rootless nomad whose curse of death would not collect in any single place. He was not meant to build kingdoms of death. He was not meant to rule over a Caliphate of death and a culture of death.

There is no room for Cain anywhere. Where he remains there will be death and suffering. He will kill because it is all he can do. He has nothing else to offer the world, his own kind or the Creator.

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