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Reply #45 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:25am

John Smith wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:57am:

cods wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:54am:

for someone who has small children.. I am amazed you make fun of someone phoning whilst driving...

they are the ones most at risk......

and you claim aussies like to see pollies doing stuff like that.. Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

EVERYONE , and I mean EVERYONE who works in a mobile environment in this day and age has answered the phone or read a text message, at some point, while driving. Anyone who says they haven't is lying.

When I was 18, my girlfriend died while using her phone in the car in a collision with a Pantech truck. I didn't yet have my licence at that time but I have NEVER, not once in my entire life, used or even looked at my phone while driving. One time it rang while I was driving and I instinctively looked down at the passenger seat at it for a split second then looked back at the road realising it was dangerous to look down there. From that time on, I always had my phone on silent and if anyone called or texted me, they could wait until I finished my journey. I don't plan on getting myself or someone else killed/hurt because I wasn't giving the road my full attention. I couldn't forgive myself if that happened.

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Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving
Reply #46 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:45am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:19am:

http://sarcasticcharm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1-slatki-fotografii-so-zhiv...

thats sad....

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

EVERYONE , and I mean EVERYONE who works in a mobile environment in this day and age has answered the phone or read a text message, at some point, while driving. Anyone who says they haven't is lying.

When I was 18, my girlfriend died while using her phone in the car in a collision with a Pantech truck. I didn't yet have my licence at that time but I have NEVER, not once in my entire life, used or even looked at my phone while driving. One time it rang while I was driving and I instinctively looked down at the passenger seat at it for a split second then looked back at the road realising it was dangerous to look down there. From that time on, I always had my phone on silent and if anyone called or texted me, they could wait until I finished my journey. I don't plan on getting myself or someone else killed/hurt because I wasn't giving the road my full attention. I couldn't forgive myself if that happened.

you can see the error of the whole thing when you have been involved cant you.?? I am sorry to hear that.. we have of course no way of knowing the dangers of the past.. but I am sure they wouldnt have brought in a law to stop it if it wasnt worth it..

will we stop the IDIOTS that still break the LAW>. of course we wont..

but we do expect MORE FROM OUR LEADERS... well at least Libs do..

sorry to see how flippant our lefty friends are.. when it comes to one of their own...no thats not true..

they are all about supporting their own no matter what....even stealing is worth supporting..

shortarse can do no wrong......he will be there next election getting their full support.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving Reply #47 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 12:04pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:19am: http://sarcasticcharm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1-slatki-fotografii-so-zhiv... Hi Kat....
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Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving
Reply #48 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 12:10pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:51pm:

Well emergency services can, surely...

' (ab)       the phone is being used as a driver's aid and—

               (i)       the body of the phone is secured in a mounting affixed to the vehicle while being so used; and

               (ii)       the use of the phone does not require the driver, at any time while using it, to press any thing on the body of the phone or otherwise to manipulate any part of the body of the phone; or

         (b)       the vehicle is an emergency vehicle or a police vehicle; or

         (c)       the driver is exempt from this rule under another law of this jurisdiction. '

http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210/s300.html

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Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving
Reply #49 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 12:39pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:57am:

cods wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:54am:

for someone who has small children.. I am amazed you make fun of someone phoning whilst driving...

they are the ones most at risk......

and you claim aussies like to see pollies doing stuff like that.. Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

EVERYONE , and I mean EVERYONE who works in a mobile environment in this day and age has answered the phone or read a text message, at some point, while driving. Anyone who says they haven't is lying.

When I was 18, my girlfriend died while using her phone in the car in a collision with a Pantech truck. I didn't yet have my licence at that time but I have NEVER, not once in my entire life, used or even looked at my phone while driving. One time it rang while I was driving and I instinctively looked down at the passenger seat at it for a split second then looked back at the road realising it was dangerous to look down there. From that time on, I always had my phone on silent and if anyone called or texted me, they could wait until I finished my journey. I don't plan on getting myself or someone else killed/hurt because I wasn't giving the road my full attention. I couldn't forgive myself if that happened.

you're a nurse ... you don't work on the road. Any call you are likely to get is personal. It's not the same for people who work from place to place, and rely on their phone for their business.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35327 Gender:	Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving Reply #50 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:27pm he could have swerved dangerously and collected Tony on his pushbike
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Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving
Reply #51 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:40pm

lee wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 12:10pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:51pm:

Well emergency services can, surely...

' (ab)       the phone is being used as a driver's aid and—

               (i)       the body of the phone is secured in a mounting affixed to the vehicle while being so used; and

               (ii)       the use of the phone does not require the driver, at any time while using it, to press any thing on the body of the phone or otherwise to manipulate any part of the body of the phone; or

         (b)       the vehicle is an emergency vehicle or a police vehicle; or

         (c)       the driver is exempt from this rule under another law of this jurisdiction. '

http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210/s300.html

I thin k any idiot would know.. there are exceptions to every LAW...

well it makes sense to me...

I am sure an ambulance driver would be allowed to use a phone when he is on duty...'

but once off duty.. he is or should be like everyone else...

unless your Bill shortarse of course.

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Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving
Reply #52 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:27pm:

he could have swerved dangerously and collected Tony on his pushbike

or worse one of his cfmeu mates.... with his pockets full of brown paper bags...lololol

no come on hes just had an accident... this has just come to light.. when does he lose his licence???>..

ok it wont happen.. hes protected..

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38874 Gender:	Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving Reply #53 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:43pm Soooooo......its not a danger if an Ambo uses it.............but it is if any other person does. Seems like you now can be only half pregnant.
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AtticusserFincherary Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102 Gender:	Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving Reply #54 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:16pm Aussie wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:43pm: Soooooo......its not a danger if an Ambo uses it.............but it is if any other person does. Seems like you now can be only half pregnant. The ambo would be using it to save a life. Shorten would be using it to save his arse.
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Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving
Reply #55 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:19pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

Soooooo......its not a danger if an Ambo uses it.............but it is if any other person does.

Well, It has to be firmly secured to the vehicle. Poor Bill's doesn't appear to be affixed to anything but his hand.

It must be used as a driver's aid. that is minor details like address to which to respond. We wouldn't want them to go to the wrong address, so some poor bugger died, would we?

Can you now see why there is that latitude?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38874 Gender:	Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving Reply #56 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:37pm Sure, I can see the latitude quite clearly. Not dangerous at all if an Ambo does it.....dangerous if 'Shorten' does it. (I'm not defending Shorten as the Law is clear..........just making obvious commentary on the hypocrisy the Law enshrines.)
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38874 Gender:	Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving Reply #57 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:45pm Here ya go. Shorten put up his hand, and fined (via ticket.) QED. Link.
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Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving
Reply #58 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:49pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:

Not dangerous at all if an Ambo does it

It may or may not be. Generally emergency services have a crew of 2. It would not generally be the driver who was reading the information.

It is there in case of a one person response. Is it dangerous? Yes. Is it demonstrably more dangerous to attend the wrong address?

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Re: Shorten Caught Dangerous Driving
Reply #59 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:52pm

lee wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:

Not dangerous at all if an Ambo does it

It may or may not be. Generally emergency services have a crew of 2. It would not generally be the driver who was reading the information.

It is there in case of a one person response. Is it dangerous? Yes. Is it demonstrably more dangerous to attend the wrong address?

Oh....I thought we were discussing the alleged inherent danger of driving while using a mobile phone. I'll stick to that simple concept. (Ambos have GPS tracking to every address they are sent to.....~ same as Cabs do ~ no need for any mobile phone use.)

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Question: One crash, one illegal phone use. Should he resign?
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