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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40772 Gender:	If science was any good .......... Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:42am We would not be having all this pointless palava about 'global warming'. We'ld have 'global perfect climating' They'ld probably genetically engineer plants so they flowered bicycles.
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Re: If science was any good ..........
Reply #1 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:36am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

We would not be having all this pointless palava about 'global warming'.
We'ld have 'global perfect climating'

They'ld probably genetically engineer plants so they flowered bicycles.

This is about stupidest thing I have read in while.

Science isn't any good because it does not instantly answer every question?

How do you think we riding horses to going to the moon just over 160 years.

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Reply #2 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:07am

Kytro wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:36am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

We would not be having all this pointless palava about 'global warming'.
We'ld have 'global perfect climating'

They'ld probably genetically engineer plants so they flowered bicycles.

This is about stupidest thing I have read in while.

Science isn't any good because it does not instantly answer every question?

How do you think we riding horses to going to the moon just over 160 years.

it was a poor attempt at satire. I get what he was saying. Some people absolutely trust what science has to say - no matter what.

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Reply #3 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:13am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:36am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

We would not be having all this pointless palava about 'global warming'.
We'ld have 'global perfect climating'

They'ld probably genetically engineer plants so they flowered bicycles.

This is about stupidest thing I have read in while.

Science isn't any good because it does not instantly answer every question?

How do you think we riding horses to going to the moon just over 160 years.

it was a poor attempt at satire. I get what he was saying. Some people absolutely trust what science has to say - no matter what.

It's our best source of information, but by it's nature it is incomplete. It is also subject politics and other human distortions. Peer review helps to mitigate it, but it's by no means completely effective.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40772 Gender:	Re: If science was any good .......... Reply #4 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:17am Science has had long enough to find a cure for the cold. Hot lemon drink still works the best. 'Science' has given us superbugs. What good did 'going to the moon' do us? Horses have helped mankind much more.
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Reply #5 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:22am

Kytro wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:36am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

We would not be having all this pointless palava about 'global warming'.
We'ld have 'global perfect climating'

They'ld probably genetically engineer plants so they flowered bicycles.

This is about stupidest thing I have read in while.

Science isn't any good because it does not instantly answer every question?

How do you think we riding horses to going to the moon just over 160 years.

it was a poor attempt at satire. I get what he was saying. Some people absolutely trust what science has to say - no matter what.

It's our best source of information, but by it's nature it is incomplete. It is also subject politics and other human distortions. Peer review helps to mitigate it, but it's by no means completely effective.

The peer-review process in climate science has come under a cloud. It has been manipulated so that reviewers have been chosen that will by sympathetic to a pro-AGW agenda and others simply rejected.

Also, peer-review is NOT a review of the science but of the methodoloy. A peer-reviewer may pass a paper which is wrong and he knows it. The uninformed have tried to give peer-review the status of infallibility.

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Reply #6 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:30am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:36am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

We would not be having all this pointless palava about 'global warming'.
We'ld have 'global perfect climating'

They'ld probably genetically engineer plants so they flowered bicycles.

This is about stupidest thing I have read in while.

Science isn't any good because it does not instantly answer every question?

How do you think we riding horses to going to the moon just over 160 years.

it was a poor attempt at satire. I get what he was saying. Some people absolutely trust what science has to say - no matter what.

It's our best source of information, but by it's nature it is incomplete. It is also subject politics and other human distortions. Peer review helps to mitigate it, but it's by no means completely effective.

The peer-review process in climate science has come under a cloud. It has been manipulated so that reviewers have been chosen that will by sympathetic to a pro-AGW agenda and others simply rejected.

Also, peer-review is NOT a review of the science but of the methodoloy. A peer-reviewer may pass a paper which is wrong and he knows it. The uninformed have tried to give peer-review the status of infallibility.

Like I said, peer review is a tool. Peers are others in the same area of expertise. It's not perfect, but it has helped make science a better tool than without it.

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Reply #7 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:34am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Science has had long enough to find a cure for the cold.
Hot lemon drink still works the best.

'Science' has given us superbugs.

What good did 'going to the moon' do us?
Horses have helped mankind much more.

A lemon drink does not cure anything.

The common cold isn't a single disease either.

Superbugs are just bugs that are resistant to our current treatments. You know like before science found those treatments.

If you can't see what good the technology used to go to the moon did you are either willfully blind or have not spent any time considering it.

Science is responsible for the modern world. You may prefer to live in the past and die of easily curable diseases, but I have no interest in it.

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Reply #8 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:10am

Kytro wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:34am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Science has had long enough to find a cure for the cold.
Hot lemon drink still works the best.

'Science' has given us superbugs.

What good did 'going to the moon' do us?
Horses have helped mankind much more.

A lemon drink does not cure anything.

The common cold isn't a single disease either.

Superbugs are just bugs that are resistant to our current treatments. You know like before science found those treatments.

If you can't see what good the technology used to go to the moon did you are either willfully blind or have not spent any time considering it.

Science is responsible for the modern world. You may prefer to live in the past and die of easily curable diseases, but I have no interest in it.

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..........Science is responsible for the modern world.......

well, it's failed pretty badly.
we are a sicker weaker, more diseased, more allergic people than ever before.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: If science was any good .......... Reply #9 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:25am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:10am: we are a sicker weaker, more diseased, more allergic people than ever before. Yeah, because in the past those people would have died at a young age from things we can easily help now... thanks to advances in science and medicine....
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Reply #10 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:28am

Stratos wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

we are a sicker weaker, more diseased, more allergic people than ever before.

Yeah, because in the past those people would have died at a young age from things we can easily help now... thanks to advances in science and medicine....

good to see you agree with that.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139402 Gender:	Re: If science was any good .......... Reply #11 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:28am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:17am: What good did 'going to the moon' do us?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40772 Gender:	Re: If science was any good .......... Reply #12 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:34am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:28am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:17am: What good did 'going to the moon' do us? https://www.bodyjewellery.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/non-stick-fry-pa... they bought back spotted frying pans from the moon !
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Reply #13 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:34am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

we are a sicker weaker, more diseased, more allergic people than ever before.

Yeah, because in the past those people would have died at a young age from things we can easily help now... thanks to advances in science and medicine....

good to see you agree with that.

Are you saying that's the bad thing?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #14 - Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

What good did 'going to the moon' do us?

https://www.bodyjewellery.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/non-stick-fry-pa...

It's gotta be one of the most ironic benefits of the space program, teflon.

The irony is, one would think in zero gravity you would want your eggs to stick to something.

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