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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: If science was any good .......... Reply #30 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:55am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:37am: If science was any good .......... We would not have droughts in Australia It's stupid comments like this which makes me think that religion has a lot to answer for.
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Reply #31 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:57am

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

If science was any good ..........

We would not have droughts in Australia

It's stupid comments like this which makes me think that religion has a lot to answer for.

so it's ok by you for science to grossly overpopulate the globe, then allow vast droughts ?

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Reply #32 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:59am

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

If science was any good ..........

We would not have droughts in Australia

It's stupid comments like this which makes me think that religion has a lot to answer for.

anyhow, you probably reckon science made me.
SO blame science for me

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Reply #33 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:06pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:50am:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

Science.......... or rather scientific method is either the first or second most important thing humanity has figured out.
Knowledge is power after all.
How else would I know that i'm 99.7% chimpanzee?

so you have been told you are 99.7% chimpanzee and you believe that.
How has that helped you ?

Well, it makes it easier for me to accept stupidity in other people when I know that they share the vast majority of their DNA sequence with an animal notorious for throwing poop.
Read some of the posts on the site and tell me im wrong...... Cheesy

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Reply #34 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:06pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:57am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

If science was any good ..........

We would not have droughts in Australia

It's stupid comments like this which makes me think that religion has a lot to answer for.

so it's ok by you for science to grossly overpopulate the globe, then allow vast droughts ?

So why has your God allowed this to happen?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40772 Gender:	Re: If science was any good .......... Reply #35 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:16pm If science was any good it would have made these ........ What a magnificent creature
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Reply #36 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:17pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:57am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

If science was any good ..........

We would not have droughts in Australia

It's stupid comments like this which makes me think that religion has a lot to answer for.

so it's ok by you for science to grossly overpopulate the globe, then allow vast droughts ?

So why has your God allowed this to happen?

Isn't he punishing us for science? Grin

Technically god didn't "allow it"
He commanded it. "go forth and multiply" "spill not your seed" etc etc etc.

And do this day god botherers continue to spit out babies as fast as possible. (its much easier to bring an ignorant child into your church than de-educate an adult).

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Reply #38 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:53pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

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..........Science is responsible for the modern world.......

well, it's failed pretty badly.
we are a sicker weaker, more diseased, more allergic people than ever before.

Absolute BS
We have a life expectancy greater than 50 thanks to science
The infant mortality rate is a fraction of what it used to be thanks to science.
You don't die from preventable diseases like small pox and polio thanks to science.
One bad harvest doesn't cause a mass famine thanks to science

In fact it is science that invented the machine you use to make your ridiculous posts.

Since your grasp of science is clearly so poor you have absolutely no authority to talk about climate change.

It is interesting that even though you and many of your conservative buddies have absolutely no idea about science you have started to try and discredit it for purely political and ideological reasons

pho - well, barnacle says science did the overpopulating thing.

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Reply #39 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm

Well technically barnacles stated that human life expectancy has increased because of science.

That's not quite the same thing as population growth, Obviously it has an effect but birth rate is much stronger driver of population growth.
but meh, semantics.

I don't think anyone is arguing a rejection of science, As far as I can tell everyone agrees the advantages science offer humanity outweigh the negatives. Thusly I will drop it like its hot

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96507	Re: If science was any good .......... Reply #40 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:02am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:17am: Science has had long enough to find a cure for the cold. Hot lemon drink still works the best. 'Science' has given us superbugs. What good did 'going to the moon' do us? Horses have helped mankind much more. Ban them. Bring back the church.
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Reply #41 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:10am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Science has had long enough to find a cure for the cold.
Hot lemon drink still works the best.

'Science' has given us superbugs.

What good did 'going to the moon' do us?
Horses have helped mankind much more.

so next time you or your family gets sick, suck on a lemon

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #42 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:35am

scientific zealots are going down the wrong track and are as dogmatic as religious zealots.

science seems very pleased with itself but lets have a look at whats really happening.

science is very good at looking at simple things with few variables.

so science can produce a microchip that does billions of computations and science can make the internet and science can manipulate a gene and lead to advances in medicine.

but we get all this stuff because
"thats the easy stuff" and the easy stuff always comes first.

but science cant answer the complex questions and the complex questions are not easy though they are much more important.

science cant answer why we have record levels of depression.
science cant answer why people are , more and more, suffering from negative neurotic thinking.
science cant answer the record levels of obesity.
no scientific study can tell you what career to take.
no scientific study can tell you who to marry.

science is a good thing but dont think it is going to answer the major questions about peace and happiness.

You will need great thinkers to answer those.
You can become a great thinker or you can read what great thinkers have said and save yourself decades of struggle.

start with the buddha, socrates, plato, jesus christ, marcus aurelius , luther, St Francis of Assisi, confusius, gandhi , Tony Robbins, Warren Buffet and Lao Tzu .

none of them are scientists , but worth a read Wink

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Reply #43 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:45am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:57am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

If science was any good ..........

We would not have droughts in Australia

It's stupid comments like this which makes me think that religion has a lot to answer for.

so it's ok by you for science to grossly overpopulate the globe, then allow vast droughts ?

It's called unprotected sex.

Just think of all these medical scientists who went through Africa handing out condoms and explaining the benefits of family planning, followed closely by the Catholic missionaries who explained that if you donned a con, you'd go to Hell.

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Reply #44 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:49am

Science *can* answer all those things and more.

But science *won't* answer any of them when it is straitjacketed by the interests of furthering power.

Historically very little science has been driven by governments and even less by corporations - individuals with curiosity and drive, supported by patrons was the model that got us where we are.
That the torch has now been passed to entities with priorities other than the pursuit of knowledge is what ensures we won't keep forging ahead.

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