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Sun Tzu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1148 Gender:	Re: Massive Crowd For Cronulla Riots' 10th Anniversity Reply #165 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:13pm ian wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:37pm: All Australian consumers pay Halal tax. Its not an argument. Only the very ignorant believe that. If you are so offended why don't you buy only non-halal goods?
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Reply #166 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:13pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:09pm:

Aussie Patriot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:04pm:

Please show me where the report states the money does not fund terrorism ?

refer to section 3.42, which addresses your questions.

Aussie Patriot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:04pm:

Yet some has been tracked to known extremist organizations.

Really? Show me and prove the Australian Senate inquiry wrong.

3.44 A number of submitters remained unconvinced by the lack of evidence suggesting a direct link between halal certification in Australia and terrorism funding, and continue to speculate:

[T]o me, it is quite clear that the government cannot definitively say that there are no links to funding either extremists or terrorism. Over and over again in those reports they talk about the charities being one of the major conduits for funding terrorism, and all of the halal certifiers—maybe not all, but let's say the majority—boast about how much money they give to charity. I do not think that there is ever going to be a direct link. As with most criminal activity, there are no direct links, and that is why we need investigations to uncover these sorts of things. But it is quite clear that the halal certifiers are giving to charities, and AUSTRAC, AIC and ACC have all said repeatedly that those charities are major conduits for funding extremists and terrorism both here and overseas.[36]

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Try harder next time clown.

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Reply #169 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:15pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:13pm:

ian wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

All Australian consumers pay Halal tax. Its not an argument.

Only the very ignorant believe that. If you are so offended why don't you buy only non-halal goods?

Because most our food has been halal certified by most supermarkets after the muslim dollar. You would be the very ignorant clearly.

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Reply #170 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm

Its not clear where the Halal tax goes, what is known that some of it is funnelled overseas to Islamic organisations. Yes, the senate inquiry didnt pick anything up but absence of evidence is not evidence. It is a fact that terrorist Islamic organisations do get substantial funding from their supporters in Western countries, including Australia. Its not a stretch and its also logical to suggest that if we are funding Islamic organisations then at least some of that money is going to terrorist organisations. Only a complete fool would be arguing otherwise.

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Reply #171 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm

So you're illiterate as well as bigoted. You'll fit right in.

Read it carefully, use your words, and see what the passage you linked is referring to, and maybe next time you'll make an actual argument.

If that random Senate submission (which anybody can do by the way) has evidence to show that Australian Halal certification funds terrorism, then they should definitely provide that to the senate inquiry.

Try harder next time, getting some basic facts might help, thanks for playing. Make up your minds on facts, not on whatever you've pulled out of your arse this evening.

edit: oh, that's quite dishonest of you I see, under the very section you posted there is this section:

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3.45 The committee did not receive any evidence supporting this view.

Is being dishonest an Australian value to you? Or only when it's being used to lie about particular people groups?

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Massive Crowd For Cronulla Riots' 10th Anniversity Reply #172 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:23pm ian wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm: Yes, the senate inquiry didnt pick anything up but absence of evidence is not evidence. Good thing rational people act on evidence they have, and not evidence they don't then I guess.
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Reply #173 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:25pm

Aussie Patriot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:59pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:57pm:

Aussie Patriot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:50pm:

Aussie Patriot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:42pm:

double plus good wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:

Even worse when that tax revenue goes to ISIS.

Yes it has been long understood this money get funneled to extremist organizations. Greed of big companies wanting mussey dollars is the problem. They are willing to overlook where their religious halal tax ends up.

No. It doesn't.

Go do some research before commenting on things you know absolutely nothing about.

You know something a senate inquiry didn't pick up?

Go do some research before commenting on things you know absolutely nothing about.

You mean i should ignore the senate inquiry and everything i know about Halal certification and visit some of the Islamophobic sites you frequent to scare the crap out of yourself on a daily basis?

No thanks. I'll stick with the senate inquiry and everything i already know.

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Reply #174 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:25pm

ian wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

Its not clear where the Halal tax goes, what is known that some of it is funnelled overseas to Islamic organisations. Yes, the senate inquiry didnt pick anything up but absence of evidence is not evidence. It is a fact that terrorist Islamic organisations do get substantial funding from their supporters in Western countries, including Australia. Its not a stretch and its also logical to suggest that if we are funding Islamic organisations then at least some of that money is going to terrorist organisations. Only a complete fool would be arguing otherwise.

Ian only believes stuff he can't prove. Facts are rejected by Ian.

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Reply #175 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:28pm

ian wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

Its not a stretch and its also logical to suggest that if we are funding Islamic organisations then at least some of that money is going to terrorist organisations. Only a complete fool would be arguing otherwise.

Why? Most Muslims oppose terrorism. Why would it be assumed that "at least some of the money is going to fund terrorist organisations"?

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Reply #176 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:45pm

Stratos wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

So you're illiterate as well as bigoted. You'll fit right in.

Read it carefully, use your words, and see what the passage you linked is referring to, and maybe next time you'll make an actual argument.

If that random Senate submission (which anybody can do by the way) has evidence to show that Australian Halal certification funds terrorism, then they should definitely provide that to the senate inquiry.

Try harder next time, getting some basic facts might help, thanks for playing. Make up your minds on facts, not on whatever you've pulled out of your arse this evening.

edit: oh, that's quite dishonest of you I see, under the very section you posted there is this section:

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3.45 The committee did not receive any evidence supporting this view.

Is being dishonest an Australian value to you? Or only when it's being used to lie about particular people groups?

Try again, that report also states they don't have enough evidence to indicate it does not get used by extremists groups. Yet there is proof the money in halal streams ends up in terrorist organizations. Clearly mosques that preach it ARE terrorist organizations as well.

A PC report means DICK...

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Reply #177 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:46pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:25pm:

ian wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

Its not clear where the Halal tax goes, what is known that some of it is funnelled overseas to Islamic organisations. Yes, the senate inquiry didnt pick anything up but absence of evidence is not evidence. It is a fact that terrorist Islamic organisations do get substantial funding from their supporters in Western countries, including Australia. Its not a stretch and its also logical to suggest that if we are funding Islamic organisations then at least some of that money is going to terrorist organisations. Only a complete fool would be arguing otherwise.

Ian only believes stuff he can't prove. Facts are rejected by Ian.

You only believe PC assumptions and claim them as facts when clearly they are not.

You and mothra must be mental giants clearly.

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Reply #178 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:50pm

mothra wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:

ian wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

Its not a stretch and its also logical to suggest that if we are funding Islamic organisations then at least some of that money is going to terrorist organisations. Only a complete fool would be arguing otherwise.

Why? Most Muslims oppose terrorism. Why would it be assumed that "at least some of the money is going to fund terrorist organisations"?

You don't speak for most muslims. The Quran does, just in case you don't know what that is, it is the book they call holy that they believe in. Guess what Einstein it teaches them to commit terrorist acts. You see this is why I told you to go away and LEARN about that which you post before making a fool of yourself.

It is clear you are still struggling to us all.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Massive Crowd For Cronulla Riots' 10th Anniversity Reply #179 - Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:50pm Aussie Patriot wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 10:45pm: Yet there is proof the money in halal streams ends up in terrorist organizations. Oh? Where is this?
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