philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 9:40pm:



That is an excellent quote.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 9:40pm:


You said the problem was "radical Islam" and not to confuse the faith with the faithful, then descended into gibberish when asked for an explanation.

My 'argument' stems from all the nasty things that Muhammed did and said. Not that I have actually made any argument in this thread - just trying to figure out what you are on about. You are the one waffling endlessly on about "radical" and "extreme" Islam without knowing what you mean by these things.

Karnal wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 10:49pm:



Ban them. Deport them. Burn down their mosques.

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:


Who is Muhammed???



It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.
Pierre Beaumarchais (1732 - 1799)

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:


umm no. That statement is odd though

At least we've moved on from your idiotic line that I didn't know what Kat said.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 11:00pm:


ISLAM you mean ???



philperth2010,

QUESTION;

Is your argument in this public forum,        ......that mainstream ISLAMIC doctrines, and that authoritative ISLAMIC scriptures,        .....do not in any way encourage religious bigotry and religious violence ?

And that you believe this,       ......because you "know Muslims (People who follow Islam) who are very nice people",      .....and those moslems who you 'know', have assured you that that circumstance was NOT so ???     !!!!





ISLAM = =  ?????????

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"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4



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"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



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philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 11:00pm:



Moslems you mean ???

......who ARE following mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine,       doctrine which has the authority of being sanctioned within ISLAM's foundation religious texts.

Those moslems ????




Or is it your argument, philperth2010,          .....that persons who declare themselves to be moslems, DO NOT actually,        .....respect and follow the DICTATES of their faith  ?????????


Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim





Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.


philperth2010,

My own proposition and belief,        .....is that;



Every moslem, who self-declares, and who insists, that he is a moslem,      .....is a person who is declaring that he chooses to follow and support ISLAM's teaching.

And that as a moslem,       ....he/she thereby, is choosing to endorse and support the declared tenets and laws of ISLAM.

That is what a moslem is.        .....imo.




philperth2010,

You seem to be laboring under the mistaken belief,       .....that all of this violent conduct [follow the link below], which is being carried out by myriad and diverse moslem groups,        .....is not sanctioned by mainstream ISLAMIC doctrines, and authoritative ISLAMIC scriptures.

QUESTION;

philperth2010,

Why would you harbour such a belief ?

Is it, because you "know Muslims (People who follow Islam) who are very nice people",      .....and the moslems you 'know', assured you that that circumstance was so ???     !!!!

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http://thereligionofpeace.com/





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philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 11:00pm:


A completely specious argument/proposition philperth2010,       .....as i think that you well know.

Shame on you.       !!!!!



Dictionary;
specious = = superficially plausible, but actually wrong.        misleadingly attractive in appearance.


As you should well know, Jesus Christ [the inspiration for 'Christianity'] forbade the abuse of children.....

Matthew 18:5
.....whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
6  But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 7:52am:



What sprint said!



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http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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There you go, being ignorant again.

What is this distinction between radical/extreme Islam and some other unnamed version of Islam that you keep going on about?

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You ask this in a thread about Islam?

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Ignorant means lacking knowledge. It is used (rationally) to describe people, not statements.