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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #30 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 9:58am:

For what reason/s, exactly?

Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. They won't see any migrant group as being Australian unless that migrant group abandons their culture and adopts Anglo European cultural practices. Australians also demonize migrant groups and use them as political pawns to further bigoted policies.

Also, you lack freedom in Australia.

Furthermore, to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England and I'm not sure how a Muslim can honestly swear an oath to a monarch like that.

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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #31 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:41pm

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 9:58am:

For what reason/s, exactly?

Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. They won't see any migrant group as being Australian unless that migrant group abandons their culture and adopts Anglo European cultural practices. Australians also demonize migrant groups and use them as political pawns to further bigoted policies.

Also, you lack freedom in Australia.

Furthermore, to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England and I'm not sure how a Muslim can honestly swear an oath to a monarch like that.

Your knowledge of the subject is formidable.

Officially called the "Pledge of Commitment":
From this time forward, (under God),I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,whose democratic beliefs I share,whose rights and liberties I respect, andwhose laws I will uphold and obey.
All new citizens have the choice of making the pledge with or without the words 'under God'.

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No political allegiance. No philosophy. No religion.

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greggerypeccary

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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #32 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:49pm

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am:

... to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England ...

If that were true, it would be an oath to the Queen of Australia.

However, it's not true.

"From this time forward
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share,
whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey."

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/Citi/Australian-citizenship-pledge

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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #33 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:49pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:41pm:

Your knowledge of the subject is formidable.

Officially called the "Pledge of Commitment":
From this time forward, (under God),I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,whose democratic beliefs I share,whose rights and liberties I respect, andwhose laws I will uphold and obey.
All new citizens have the choice of making the pledge with or without the words 'under God'.

Oh great lol, so they don't have to swear an oath to the system of government or a Constitution.. Just the idea of 'Australia'.

Well why the hell would they expect Muslims that migrate to Australia to not want to bring their own beliefs about a system of government with them?

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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #34 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am:

... to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England ...

If that were true, it would be an oath to the Queen of Australia.

However, it's not true.

"From this time forward
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share,
whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey."

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/Citi/Australian-citizenship-pledge

"Australia" and it's "people"

So what is "Australia" peccary ? Australia Corp, Independent Australia, Crown Australia, Bank of England Australia, Rule of Law Australia ... or maybe it's just plain ol' Peccary Australia. God help us

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greggerypeccary

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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #35 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:29pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am:

... to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England ...

If that were true, it would be an oath to the Queen of Australia.

However, it's not true.

"From this time forward
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share,
whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey."

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/Citi/Australian-citizenship-pledge

"Australia" and it's "people"

That's correct.

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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #36 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:49pm

Commonwealth Consolidated Acts
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COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 1
Legislative power

The legislative power of the Commonwealth shall be vested in a Federal Parliament, which shall consist of the Queen, a Senate, and a House of Representatives, and which is hereinafter called The Parliament , or The Parliament of the Commonwealth .

The Oath is sworn to the Queen by default. No need to display your ignorance any further peccary

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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #37 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:54pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:49pm:

Commonwealth Consolidated Acts
[Index] [Table] [Search] [Search this Act] [Notes] [Noteup] [Previous] [Download] [Help]
COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 1
Legislative power

The legislative power of the Commonwealth shall be vested in a Federal Parliament, which shall consist of the Queen, a Senate, and a House of Representatives, and which is hereinafter called The Parliament , or The Parliament of the Commonwealth .

The Oath is sworn to the Queen by default. No need to display your ignorance any further peccary

"to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England"

No, you do not swear an oath to ANY Queen at all.

Indirectly, however, you are pledging loyalty to the Queen of Australia.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18724 Gender:	Re: deport the grand mufti Reply #38 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:01pm Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am: Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. What else would a muslim say about aussies
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18724 Gender:	Re: deport the grand mufti Reply #39 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:02pm Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:49pm: Well why the hell would they expect Muslims that migrate to Australia to not want to bring their own beliefs about a system of government with them? Are you saying all muslims prefer a caliphate with sharia law?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139098 Gender:	Re: deport the grand mufti Reply #40 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:02pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:01pm: Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am: Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. What else would a muslim say about aussies Own goal
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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #41 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:02pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:01pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am:

Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap.

What else would a muslim say about aussies

Own goal

We're not just racists we are super racists according to this muslim, does he/she know muslims are not a race?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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the good ole boys Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 658 Gender:	Re: deport the grand mufti Reply #42 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:11pm Super racists? If Australians are so faulty and bad then why does everybody want to live in the country they built?
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18724 Gender:	Re: deport the grand mufti Reply #43 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:13pm the good ole boys wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:11pm: Super racists? If Australians are so faulty and bad then why does everybody want to live in the country they built? Centrelink?
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Re: deport the grand mufti
Reply #44 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:17pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:13pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:11pm:

Super racists? If Australians are so faulty and bad then why does everybody want to live in the country they built?

Centrelink?

Definitely one of the things. Also peace, wealth opportunity , healthcare, education etc etc. Not bad for a bunch of super racists hey?

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