More and more we see secularism are more inclusive. But it only works on those who wish to assimilate

Words such secularism and assimilation seems contradictory. But secularism works as it's based upon common law

Globalisation is more than economics. Globalisation needs secularism to work i.e. common law.

Maqqa wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 9:12pm:


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phil we are talking about religion and government (state)

Islam is a pseudo religion/government

Secularism is about common law for all

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 11:10pm:


I am suggesting secularism can work in an Islamic State. For the moment lets forget Islamic State refers to the terrorists that occupy Raqqa.

Lets look at Islamic State as a government system inspired by Islamic religious belief. There are degrees of "inspiration"

Saudi Arabia is an example of 100% inspiration whereas Malaysia and Indonesia is say 20% (I am making assumptions for discussion purposes)

At 20% inspiration - the government system has room for secularism

With globalisation - you need common ground.

Saudi Arabia has money to give everyone the finger i.e. if people want to live there then they need to follow Sharia Law. They do whatever they want

Its also interesting that you advocate Muslims are allowed to do whatever they want in their country but Australians need to be cultural sensitive to Muslims in Australia

Should we be able to do whatever we want without being labelled Islamophobic or racist?

Maqqa,

ISLAM is a spiritual evil.

It is impossible to fight against a spiritual evil [like ISLAM],         ....while we continue to denying that that spiritual evil exists.

But that is precisely what secularism insists!


Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


Maqqa,

I assume you will claim that you are a secularist.

But you are not.

You have a religion.

And each of us has a religion.

The way that we live our life,         .....that, is our 'religion'.

And our 'profession' [the precepts which we live by], in this world,         .....that, is our 'religion'.



Pursuing a secular lifestyle [on a personal level], allows us to [on a personal level] abandon spiritual precepts.

What is secularism ?

Dictionary;
secular = = not religious, sacred, or spiritual.

Truth, is a spiritual precept.

Maqqa,

Q.
Why has the 'West' been so easily and so comprehensively 'infiltrated', by the spiritual evil which ISLAM has brought with it, to our lands/nations ?

A.
Because we, as people and nations long ago, abandoned spiritual truth,      ....for secular lies.

e.g.
'Good and evil do not exist.'

'We, ourselves, are the arbiters of what is good, and of what is not good.'


And that type of thinking has brought mankind, to where he is today.



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Maqqa,

You seem to be suggesting that to fight against something like ISLAM, that we need to bolster, and to spread secularism, and secular principles in the world.

Maqqa,

OBSERVATION;
Malcolm Turnbull is a secularist.       !!!!!


Maqqa,

QUESTION;
Do you believe that if Australia was a nation which was full of persons like Malcolm Turnbull [or e.g. Tony Jones - Q&A], that Australia would have the wherewithal, to resist and overcome an evil, like ISLAM ?

LOL !!!!!

You are living in a dream-world, imo.

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http://concit.org/turnbulls-ignorance-of-islam-is-dangerous-for-australia/





'What are the most important things in life?'
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/1#1



Truth will defeat ISLAM.

Truth will banish ISLAM.

But first, we [as individuals] must be prepared to confront what is true.

We must be prepared to grasp hold of truth.


And, i do not believe that mankind, today, has the moral capacity to actually do that!



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                 24 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rjdO4cfeEg

As an informative and revelatory YouTube on ISLAM,

Maqqa wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:07am:


I believe it did before The Coalition if the Silly went into Iraq.

Science is a method of study and discovery. It gives us tools that help solve problems even social problems, but it is still a method.

Community is important (and all to infrequent these days), but community does not need to come from religion. There isn't a necessity for it. 

People are living in huge groups, but with less community and we are not so well equipped to deal with modern life.

Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:


The US is hardly a secular society. The next global hegemon, however, is. China is not religious at all.

As China slowly spreads its tentacles around the world, Maqqa may well have his wish come true.