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Miners say 'skrew you' to Australia
Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:25am

There is a "50-50 chance" taxpayers could be left to foot a clean-up bill for open cut brown coal mines in Victoria's east, an inquiry has heard.

The issue was raised in evidence to the Hazelwood Mine Fire Inquiry that has been looking into the rehabilitation of the Latrobe Valley's three coal mines: Yallourn, Loy Yang and Hazelwood.

A Victorian Department of Economic Development, Jobs, Transport and Resources report stated there was a 50 per cent chance that, "licensees become insolvent, leaving significant costs to be borne by the state in carrying out approved rehabilitation works."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-18/taxpayers-may-have-to-pay-clean-up-bill-fo...

and then the lib fan boys have the hide to tell us wind turbines are an eye sore Cheesy

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #1 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:36am

There are times when one just hates being right.

I said this would happen when the mining boom busted, I said it back when there was much hand wringing and angst about taxing miners more...

Now we have this reality to deal with.

Mining clearly has not been all that good for Australia, but the few who gain material wealth clearly had more democratic rights than the rest of us who have to deal with their mess left over.

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On the 26th of January you are all invited to celebrate little white penal day...

"They're not rules as such, more like guidelines" Pirates of the Caribbean..

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Phemanderac Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3507 Gender:	Re: Miners say 'skrew you' to Australia Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am Now wait for the increased unemployment benefits bill once we start paying all of the now unemployed miners who, like successive Governments put nothing aside to allow for this moment...
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Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 10:36am

Ah - The Latrine Valley on the road to Malbun... had the temerity or utter foolishness to stay there during that fire... I have to wonder what long-term health problems arise from that sulphur-ridden pollution....

Who's paying for those? Bet the incidence of 'asthma' and COPD and Emphysema is high in every category... along with heart problems etc....

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75097 Gender:	Re: Miners say 'skrew you' to Australia Reply #4 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 11:07am and yet my brother in law had to pay $300 for dumping one small piece of asbestos sheeting at the tip ....
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Reply #5 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:04pm

Both parties have been bought and paid for by Mining.

The Mining industry has been Australia's Shadow Government for decades. Crazy amounts of policy since at least the 1970s has just been handing over more and more power to the Mining industry at the expense of everyone else.

The Northern Intervention against Aboriginals shows how far Mining Companies are willing to go.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Miners say 'skrew you' to Australia Reply #6 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:36pm Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:04pm: The Mining industry has been Australia's Shadow Government for decades ......maybe because its taxes pay for a big chunk of its bureaucracy..........your fortnightly trip to Centrelink wouldn't be as lucrative without it
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Reply #7 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:00pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

The Mining industry has been Australia's Shadow Government for decades

......maybe because its taxes pay for a big chunk of its bureaucracy..........your fortnightly trip to Centrelink wouldn't be as lucrative without it Cheesy

As long as I can remember the mining sector have led the way in government subsidies, handouts and tax benefits ?

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Reply #8 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:19pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:00pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

The Mining industry has been Australia's Shadow Government for decades

......maybe because its taxes pay for a big chunk of its bureaucracy..........your fortnightly trip to Centrelink wouldn't be as lucrative without it Cheesy

As long as I can remember the mining sector have led the way in government subsidies, handouts and tax benefits ?

You don't remember very well. Mining is one of the least subsidised of industry sectors....

Source: P21

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Reply #9 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:34pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

There is a "50-50 chance" taxpayers could be left to foot a clean-up bill for open cut brown coal mines in Victoria's east, an inquiry has heard.

The issue was raised in evidence to the Hazelwood Mine Fire Inquiry that has been looking into the rehabilitation of the Latrobe Valley's three coal mines: Yallourn, Loy Yang and Hazelwood.

A Victorian Department of Economic Development, Jobs, Transport and Resources report stated there was a 50 per cent chance that, "licensees become insolvent, leaving significant costs to be borne by the state in carrying out approved rehabilitation works."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-18/taxpayers-may-have-to-pay-clean-up-bill-fo...

and then the lib fan boys have the hide to tell us wind turbines are an eye sore Cheesy

Chalk and cheese, phuckwit. But yes, they are an eyesore.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Miners say 'skrew you' to Australia Reply #10 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:34pm If you believe there are soooooooooooo many leftards who feels strongly about this the start a go-fund-me clean up fund Lets see how many lefties who are willing to put meaningful money towards the cost
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Reply #11 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:35pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:00pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

The Mining industry has been Australia's Shadow Government for decades

......maybe because its taxes pay for a big chunk of its bureaucracy..........your fortnightly trip to Centrelink wouldn't be as lucrative without it Cheesy

As long as I can remember the mining sector have led the way in government subsidies, handouts and tax benefits ?

You don't remember very well. Mining is one of the least subsidised of industry sectors....

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/mining%20subs.png
Source: P21

Exactly. Farming is subsidised at close to three times the amount that mining is. By the way, anyone notice Jack Sh!t's glaring spelling error? Your parents must be so proud after having sent you to school for those four years before you got kicked out.

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Re: Miners say 'skrew you' to Australia
Reply #12 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 4:24pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

If you believe there are soooooooooooo many leftards who feels strongly about this the start a go-fund-me clean up fund

Lets see how many lefties who are willing to put meaningful money towards the cost

Why should the left have to pay for the destruction of the Australian environment?

I always wonder why you right wingers even claim you are Australian when you clearly hate your fellow Australians and want to see them suffer, you clearly hate Australia's environment and want to see it destroyed and you suck the **** of multinational corporations?

Honestly what does being sycophantic to the mining industry do for you? Does Gina come in and crush your pelvis once a week?

Also mining is massively oversubsidised for it's per capita size.

Agriculture and Services dwarf the mining sector.

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Reply #13 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 4:55pm

That brown coal really is filthy stuff - full of impurities, doesn't burn that well, or
very cleanly, and has a fairly low calorific value (meaning it's quite inefficient). It
is not particularly 'old', geologically speaking.

Black coal (anthracite) on the other hand, has few impurities, burns cleanly and well
and has a high calorific value. Anthracite from the Hunter region (Newcastle area) is
well-known for being some of the best steaming-coal in the world. It is generally
formed much earlier geologically, and been formed under much higher pressures.

Why we continue to burn the brown rubbish (often not that far removed from peat)
when we have so much vastly superior black coal, I don't know. It's like having a
choice between kerosene and Premium for your car, and choosing the kerosene.

Oh wait... it's more expensive - so lets flog it off overseas for the benefit of others
(and the profits, of course) while we continue to burn sh1t.

BTW, there are a LOT of wind-turbines around my local region - I don't find them
to be at all offensive or ugly.

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Miners say 'skrew you' to Australia Reply #14 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm Swagman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:19pm: You don't remember very well. Mining is one of the least subsidised of industry sectors.... http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/mining%20subs.png Source: P21 7% of the subsidies, 2% of the workforce.
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