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Reply #15 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:20pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:15pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

To me the cartoon says that they need food instead of solar panels. That's why they are eating the solar panels. What is racist about that??

That’s right, Homo. It also shows these Curries are so stupid they’ll eat anything if it comes with a bit of mango chutney.

It’s not racist.

You need to think about it on a deeper Karnal Knowledge. It's making a blunt point and is nothing at all to do with stupid Indians love.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58387 Here Gender:	Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media Reply #16 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:36pm It's not funny.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media Reply #17 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:50pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:36pm: It's not funny. No, it's satire, aimed at the AGW/IPCC mob.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media Reply #18 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:51pm And as always, we get caught up squabbling over the word 'racist'. Fine then: implying that Indians are so stupid to think solar panels will be edible with some mango chutney is racist bigoted.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35391 Gender:	Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media Reply #19 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm Bill Leak s a family member b marriage and i'm not defending him on this one. It's racist.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media Reply #20 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:51pm: And as always, we get caught up squabbling over the word 'racist'. Fine then: implying that Indians are so stupid to think solar panels will be edible with some mango chutney is racist bigoted. And once again...that was NOT the implication.
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Reply #21 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:57pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

And as always, we get caught up squabbling over the word 'racist'.

Fine then: implying that Indians are so stupid to think solar panels will be edible with some mango chutney is racist bigoted.

And once again...that was NOT the implication.

Clearly it was.

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aussie100percent Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 565 Gender:	Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media Reply #22 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:03pm mothra wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm: Bill Leak s a family member b marriage and i'm not defending him on this one. It's racist. Poor bastard
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Reply #23 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:24pm

mothra wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

And as always, we get caught up squabbling over the word 'racist'.

Fine then: implying that Indians are so stupid to think solar panels will be edible with some mango chutney is racist bigoted.

And once again...that was NOT the implication.

Clearly it was.

No, "Clearly" (to normal people with functioning brains), it was a comment on the idea of giving hungry people the latest electrical gadgets....when what they actually need/want is FOOD and/or WATER. If you want to help the poor in India, give them crops and seeds with better yields per acre..Not much point in having the power to run your fridge when there's nothing to put in the fridge..

At the moment, giving them the means to light their homes, or power their tv sets doesn't really help the poor people in 3rd world countries, when they don't have enough to eat, or clean drinking water, or even homes that aren't made out of cardboard and plastic...

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137130 Gender:	Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media Reply #24 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:28pm One of my favourite cartoons comes from Bill Leak. Two Muslim women in burqas, with one saying to the other "Does my bomb look big in this"?
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media Reply #25 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:29pm At the risk of being slammed for being insensitive..it's sort of like giving a deaf person a walkman...
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Reply #26 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:38pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

And as always, we get caught up squabbling over the word 'racist'.

Fine then: implying that Indians are so stupid to think solar panels will be edible with some mango chutney is racist bigoted.

And once again...that was NOT the implication.

Clearly it was.

No, "Clearly" (to normal people with functioning brains), it was a comment on the idea of giving hungry people the latest electrical gadgets....when what they actually need/want is FOOD and/or WATER. If you want to help the poor in India, give them crops and seeds with better yields per acre..Not much point in having the power to run your fridge when there's nothing to put in the fridge..

At the moment, giving them the means to light their homes, or power their tv sets doesn't really help the poor people in 3rd world countries, when they don't have enough to eat, or clean drinking water, or even homes that aren't made out of cardboard and plastic...

Yet the implication is that these people don't recognise non-edible materials. It infers quite heavily that they are stupid.

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Reply #27 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:41pm

mothra wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:38pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

And as always, we get caught up squabbling over the word 'racist'.

Fine then: implying that Indians are so stupid to think solar panels will be edible with some mango chutney is racist bigoted.

And once again...that was NOT the implication.

Clearly it was.

No, "Clearly" (to normal people with functioning brains), it was a comment on the idea of giving hungry people the latest electrical gadgets....when what they actually need/want is FOOD and/or WATER. If you want to help the poor in India, give them crops and seeds with better yields per acre..Not much point in having the power to run your fridge when there's nothing to put in the fridge..

At the moment, giving them the means to light their homes, or power their tv sets doesn't really help the poor people in 3rd world countries, when they don't have enough to eat, or clean drinking water, or even homes that aren't made out of cardboard and plastic...

Yet the implication is that these people don't recognise non-edible materials. It infers quite heavily that they are stupid.

No, the implication is that they are SOOO hungry that they'll try to eat anything.

Not an inference about their intelligence, just about their desperation.

People who are starving will try to eat tree bark, if they don't have anything else to eat. Doesn't make THEM stupid, it makes the 'wealthy people' who send them tree bark instead of food look stupid..(I mean the UN and the world leaders at COP21 btw)

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Re: Australian racist cartoonist berated in media
Reply #28 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:43pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

And as always, we get caught up squabbling over the word 'racist'.

Fine then: implying that Indians are so stupid to think solar panels will be edible with some mango chutney is racist bigoted.

And once again...that was NOT the implication.

Clearly it was.

No, "Clearly" (to normal people with functioning brains), it was a comment on the idea of giving hungry people the latest electrical gadgets....when what they actually need/want is FOOD and/or WATER. If you want to help the poor in India, give them crops and seeds with better yields per acre..Not much point in having the power to run your fridge when there's nothing to put in the fridge..

At the moment, giving them the means to light their homes, or power their tv sets doesn't really help the poor people in 3rd world countries, when they don't have enough to eat, or clean drinking water, or even homes that aren't made out of cardboard and plastic...

No one's arguing the validity of the point the cartoon is making - in my view it was a good point to make. But it was also racist. Believe it or not - a cartoon can be making a good point and be racist at the same time.

He should have stopped at "its no good you can't eat them" - that gets the point across perfectly. The inclusion of both the ape-like creature bashing a box with an axe because he's too stupid to know how to open it, as well as the man thinking that mango chutney will make glass and metal edible - is racist to any reasonable person.

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Reply #29 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:43pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:41pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:38pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

And as always, we get caught up squabbling over the word 'racist'.

Fine then: implying that Indians are so stupid to think solar panels will be edible with some mango chutney is racist bigoted.

And once again...that was NOT the implication.

Clearly it was.

No, "Clearly" (to normal people with functioning brains), it was a comment on the idea of giving hungry people the latest electrical gadgets....when what they actually need/want is FOOD and/or WATER. If you want to help the poor in India, give them crops and seeds with better yields per acre..Not much point in having the power to run your fridge when there's nothing to put in the fridge..

At the moment, giving them the means to light their homes, or power their tv sets doesn't really help the poor people in 3rd world countries, when they don't have enough to eat, or clean drinking water, or even homes that aren't made out of cardboard and plastic...

Yet the implication is that these people don't recognise non-edible materials. It infers quite heavily that they are stupid.

No, the implication is that they are SOOO hungry that they'll try to eat anything.

Not an inference about their intelligence, just about their desperation.

I disagree. Strongly.

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