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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 96446	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #30 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:17pm Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:12pm: aquascoot wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 4:52pm: read some Orwell The same Orwell that was a Libertarian Communist and fought for a Council Communist Spain? Orwell fought for the POUM. He turned off communism. He came to favour the anarchists.
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Reply #31 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 8:21pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

What we really needed was a communist centrally planned economy. That way the mining boom would never have happened at all! But at least we would also ahve rampant poverty and hunger, not to mention concentration camps and death squads.

All much better than Howard's reign, what?

Do you ever have a point without resorting to personal insults, fallacies and hyperbole? .

Oh, yes. Maria’s point is that the Libs are just marvellous. More accurately, the leftards are hideous and vile.

Maria likes to keep a clean house. Even Hubbie is not allowed in without taking off his shoes.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #32 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 11:26pm Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:14pm: Do you ever have a point without resorting to personal insults .......do you? Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:14pm: You're a retard Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 4:14pm: You're an idiot. ..........hmm I guess not
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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #33 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:32am At least I have points apart from insults, sadly neither of you two have.
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Reply #34 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:33am

Karnal wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 4:52pm:

read some Orwell

The same Orwell that was a Libertarian Communist and fought for a Council Communist Spain?

Orwell fought for the POUM. He turned off communism. He came to favour the anarchists.

Anarcho-Communism and Council Communism is still Communism. Technically the POUM though was Trotskyist.
Orwell, like most Socialists, detested Stalinism especially since they betrayed the POUM and CNT/FAI in the Spanish Civil War.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35053 Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #35 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:35am i'll pass on socialism and stick with free enterprise thank you very much. tell me. when the berlin wall came down , were there thousands of west berliners streaming into east berlin to queue for bread and turnips
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Reply #36 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:40am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:35am:

i'll pass on socialism and stick with free enterprise thank you very much.

tell me.

when the berlin wall came down , were there thousands of west berliners streaming into east berlin to queue for bread and turnips Wink

The workers paradise was not so much a paradise.

Dont tell Kiron tho. He thinks the works technology was largely developed by Russia and all the deaths from poverty occur in capitalist countries.

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Reply #37 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:44am

Kat wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:09pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

Remember this?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/Debt%20Free.jpg

That was before Labor got in and trashed the economy, fleeced the treasury, drove away justabout all business investment and maxed out the nations credit card..... Cheesy

.....oh and increased unemployment by 50%

Grin

Actually, Labor did none of those things.

But the LNP have certainly made-up for it.

only a dead set halfwit would believe that

and its halfwits that keep voting Labor that puts us in this mess

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Reply #39 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:46am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:36pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Blame Labor for that. They threw money around everywhere and far ked things up right left and centre . Billions and billions went on people smuggling alone when Labor tore down the borders. Howard had the economy going great and Labor stuffed it back up. The economy has never been the same.

NOT ONE single word of truth in that little diatribe.

Not ONE.

ALL LNP propaganda - nothing more.

how much has the alps failed invitation to illegals cost us ?

At least $8bn since 2007. That's up from less than $100m a year under Howard.

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Reply #40 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:47am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

Remember this?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/Debt%20Free.jpg

That was before Labor got in and trashed the economy, fleeced the treasury, drove away justabout all business investment and maxed out the nations credit card..... Cheesy

.....oh and increased unemployment by 50%

Grin

Nice big structural Budget deficit tho. Didja forget about that?

Most people don't see a $22 billion surplus as any kind of deficit.

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Reply #41 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:20am

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:44am:

Kat wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:09pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

Remember this?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/Debt%20Free.jpg

That was before Labor got in and trashed the economy, fleeced the treasury, drove away justabout all business investment and maxed out the nations credit card..... Cheesy

.....oh and increased unemployment by 50%

Grin

Actually, Labor did none of those things.

But the LNP have certainly made-up for it.

only a dead set halfwit would believe that

and its halfwits that keep voting Labor that puts us in this mess

Actually, dimbo, only a dead-set halfwit could argue against it.

Labor gets the country OUT of messes, not into them.

Historical fact - not spin.

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Reply #42 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:27am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 2:07pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 1:18pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Blame Labor for that. They threw money around everywhere and far ked things up right left and centre . Billions and billions went on people smuggling alone when Labor tore down the borders. Howard had the economy going great and Labor stuffed it back up. The economy has never been the same.

Howard & Costello were in power at a time of a boom. what did they do? They spent all the boom time revenue, $350Bn p1ssed up against the wall. Worse than that their profligacy, tax cuts, pork, middleclass welfare etc were built into the Budget.

Howard & Costello are the cause of many of our economic and Budgetary problems still now. Clowns!

monk, you dill.

how can anyone with 1/2 a brain say that giving taxpayers tax cuts is government "p1ssing that money up against the wall"
it is the ONLY legitimate thing a government SHOULD do when they have extra money.

Rubbish .... if you earn more money than your expenses do YOU give it back to your boss?

During the excesses of the boom is exactly when they should have built the infrastructure for the next century. Developed tomorrows industries. It's when they should have prepared Australia's superannuation for when it retired from China's boom. Giving back permanent tax cuts was easy vote buying.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #43 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:40am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:40am:

The workers paradise was not so much a paradise.

Dont tell Kiron tho. He thinks the works technology was largely developed by Russia and all the deaths from poverty occur in capitalist countries.

Oh yes, I totally think STALINIST countries that betrayed the Socialist ideal by turning Socialism into a conservative police state that rewound all the social and political gains of the proletarian revolution is totally some perfect utopia Roll Eyes

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Also great to know you seem to think the third world doesn't exist or that Western countries didn't treat their workers as little more than cattle in the 19th and early-mid 20th century.

If anything, it was the threat of Socialist revolution in the west that actually gave us workers rights and social services. Imagine in the US how bad things would have gotten if the New Deal wasn't put through, a Communist revolution in at least the South West would have been inevitable (and small scale socialist uprisings were breaking out all over the working class south in the US)

Though I'm assuming you have no problem with Union workers, IWW activists and others being lynched and murdered by the thousands in the US by Government and business supported mass murdering Fascist paramilitaries like the American Protective League.

Again, great to see you Maria just resort to more fallacies. The Dunning Kruger effect is strong in you.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #44 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:56am Kat wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:20am: Labor gets the country OUT of messes, not into them. Historical fact - not spin Quote: Labor gets the country OUT of messes, not into them. Historical indoctrinated fact ....fixed it for ya.....
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