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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #45 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:10am All Liberals do is stagnate the economy and progress. Basically every Liberal Government has been "lost years" of development.
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Reply #46 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:39am

Swagman wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:56am:

Kat wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:20am:

Labor gets the country OUT of messes, not into them.

Historical fact - not spin

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Labor gets the country OUT of messes, not into them.

Historical indoctrinated fact

....fixed it for ya..... Cheesy

So sayeth the actual indoctrinated one.

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Reply #47 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:52am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:08pm:

It's Norway and they also have the highest cost of living in the world. Once the oil runs out they are in big trouble because they have pretty much nothing else.

So...... in Oz where our costs of living have been artificially inflated through the roof via 'privatisation' and other grabs for cash by the insiders and booms in artificially inflated housing prices to suit the insiders (again) ... and where we've only had, for ages now, your much-beloved mining boom now defunct......... Australia is not in big trouble right now with the collapse of that mining boom?

What is your answer to the economy's woes built in by successive governments of fools on all sides? Rob the poor again? Make it impossible for them to eat asa means of stimulating the economy? Tax 'em all to death and feed your mates in the eternal hope that somehow they won't piss it away on nice houses and offshore trips and lifestyle, but will actually invest in something solid here in Oz to restore some (LMAO) 'trickle-down' to the starving peasants?

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Reply #48 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:33am

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

All Liberals do is stagnate the economy and progress.

Basically every Liberal Government has been "lost years" of development.

What rot.

The liberals foster the private sector, which is by far the biggest portion of the economy whilst trying to balance the budget.

Whilst the Left's primary mission in life is to bring down the private sector? Roll Eyes

It's the left that is the economic retardant.

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Reply #49 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:41am

What private sector? Liberals foster nothing.
Oh wow, sycophancy to the mining, agriculture and retail industry while actively sabotaging everything actually productive like huge cuts in funding for IT development studios, renewable energy, Scientific R&D, manufacturing.

If the Liberals 'foster investment' why is Capital expenditure after 2 years of Liberal Government at an all time low? Why did they chase away 3 billion dollars of private investment into renewable energy, 3 BILLION DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT.

How about you stop being a Liberal party shill and open your eyes for once. The Liberal party is simply the political arm of entrenched dinosaur business cartels.

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Reply #50 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:44am

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:41am:

What private sector? Liberals foster nothing.
Oh wow, sycophancy to the mining, agriculture and retail industry while actively sabotaging everything actually productive like huge cuts in funding for IT development studios, renewable energy, Scientific R&D, manufacturing.

If the Liberals 'foster investment' why is Capital expenditure after 2 years of Liberal Government at an all time low? Why did they chase away 3 billion dollars of private investment into renewable energy, 3 BILLION DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT.

How about you stop being a Liberal party shill and open your eyes for once. The Liberal party is simply the political arm of entrenched dinosaur business cartels.

Has the global downturn escaped your attention, communist?

What we really need is central planning and a secret police, right?

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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #51 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am Mods, can Maria please be banned. What does she/he even contribute to any conversation ever apart from abuse?
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Reply #52 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:31pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

All Liberals do is stagnate the economy and progress.

Basically every Liberal Government has been "lost years" of development.

What rot.

The liberals foster the private sector, which is by far the biggest portion of the economy whilst trying to balance the budget.

Whilst the Left's primary mission in life is to bring down the private sector? Roll Eyes

It's the left that is the economic retardant.

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Strange. The major reforms to support business in Australia have all been Labor’s. Even Gillard did more in her time than Howard. Cuts to company tax, raising the super contribution, funding paid parental leave, reforming the disability sector to ensure more workforce participation.

The most Howard did in his time was introduce Workchoices, only to have it all scrapped because he went too far.

I don’t support either major party, but I’d love to see a list of macro or micro economic reforms implimented by Howard, Fraser or Abbott.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96446	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #53 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:32pm Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am: Mods, can Maria please be banned. What does she/he even contribute to any conversation ever apart from abuse? Maths, I think.
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Reply #54 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:35pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:41am:

What private sector?

.......

......that says it all Grin

Bam wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:43am:

How about you stop being a Liberal party shill and open your eyes for once. The Liberal party is simply the political arm of entrenched dinosaur business cartels.

Business cartels are illegal under competition legislation.

Not so Labour Cartels (Trade Unions).

Anti-competitive behaviour is their norm and this anti-competitive behaviour is fostered by the Labor party.

Competition is essential to a healthy economy.

Just one of the many reasons socialism fails and why socialist Labor should never form government.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #55 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:41pm Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am: Mods, can Maria please be banned. What does she/he even contribute to any conversation ever apart from abuse? John 8:7
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Reply #56 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:41pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:52am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:08pm:

It's Norway and they also have the highest cost of living in the world. Once the oil runs out they are in big trouble because they have pretty much nothing else.

So...... in Oz where our costs of living have been artificially inflated through the roof via 'privatisation' and other grabs for cash by the insiders and booms in artificially inflated housing prices to suit the insiders (again) ... and where we've only had, for ages now, your much-beloved mining boom now defunct......... Australia is not in big trouble right now with the collapse of that mining boom?

What is your answer to the economy's woes built in by successive governments of fools on all sides? Rob the poor again? Make it impossible for them to eat asa means of stimulating the economy? Tax 'em all to death and feed your mates in the eternal hope that somehow they won't piss it away on nice houses and offshore trips and lifestyle, but will actually invest in something solid here in Oz to restore some (LMAO) 'trickle-down' to the starving peasants?

I could answer, but really, what would be the point? What is the chance you could stay non-delusional long enough to understand? The rubbish you post mainly identifies your cognitive deficits as well as your mental health issues.

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Reply #57 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:44pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:31pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

All Liberals do is stagnate the economy and progress.

Basically every Liberal Government has been "lost years" of development.

What rot.

The liberals foster the private sector, which is by far the biggest portion of the economy whilst trying to balance the budget.

Whilst the Left's primary mission in life is to bring down the private sector? Roll Eyes

It's the left that is the economic retardant.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/SCAB%20UNIONS_1.jpg

Strange. The major reforms to support business in Australia have all been Labor’s. Even Gillard did more in her time than Howard. Cuts to company tax, raising the super contribution, funding paid parental leave, reforming the disability sector to ensure more workforce participation.

The most Howard did in his time was introduce Workchoices, only to have it all scrapped because he went too far.

I don’t support either major party, but I’d love to see a list of macro or micro economic reforms implimented by Howard, Fraser or Abbott.

There are plenty, but you would either dispute them, deny them or pretend I didnt reply.

BTW the cuts to company tax came under ABBOTT. At least try and get your biased idiocy correct.

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Reply #58 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 1:00pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:41pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:52am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 6:08pm:

It's Norway and they also have the highest cost of living in the world. Once the oil runs out they are in big trouble because they have pretty much nothing else.

So...... in Oz where our costs of living have been artificially inflated through the roof via 'privatisation' and other grabs for cash by the insiders and booms in artificially inflated housing prices to suit the insiders (again) ... and where we've only had, for ages now, your much-beloved mining boom now defunct......... Australia is not in big trouble right now with the collapse of that mining boom?

What is your answer to the economy's woes built in by successive governments of fools on all sides? Rob the poor again? Make it impossible for them to eat asa means of stimulating the economy? Tax 'em all to death and feed your mates in the eternal hope that somehow they won't piss it away on nice houses and offshore trips and lifestyle, but will actually invest in something solid here in Oz to restore some (LMAO) 'trickle-down' to the starving peasants?

I could answer, but really, what would be the point? What is the chance you could stay non-delusional long enough to understand? The rubbish you post mainly identifies your cognitive deficits as well as your mental health issues.

You use of words, as usual, out-strips your actual knowledge by many a country mile..... and your ethics and attitude are those of the kind of gutter snakes which inhabit Liberal party rooms....

You can't answer the question, can you? I'll try it in small words for you:-

Since the mining boom has virtually collapsed here, as you say will occur in Norway, and our costs of living have boomed to meet that supposed boom and the supposed profitability of the country as a whole - and Norway has salted away billions in interest bearing areas, whereas Australia has only salted away the futures fund for politicians and public servants - how then - since OUR 'boom' has collapsed... will Australia NOT HERE AND NOW be in the trouble you say Norway will be in?

Not that hard really..... and I'd say more penetrating than 'delusional' as you so desperately seek to suggest.... now answer the question or go home.

Fish in a barrel, these purported Liberal private school twerps..... fish in a barrel...

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Reply #59 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 1:02pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:31pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

All Liberals do is stagnate the economy and progress.

Basically every Liberal Government has been "lost years" of development.

What rot.

The liberals foster the private sector, which is by far the biggest portion of the economy whilst trying to balance the budget.

Whilst the Left's primary mission in life is to bring down the private sector? Roll Eyes

It's the left that is the economic retardant.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/SCAB%20UNIONS_1.jpg

Strange. The major reforms to support business in Australia have all been Labor’s. Even Gillard did more in her time than Howard. Cuts to company tax, raising the super contribution, funding paid parental leave, reforming the disability sector to ensure more workforce participation.

The most Howard did in his time was introduce Workchoices, only to have it all scrapped because he went too far.

I don’t support either major party, but I’d love to see a list of macro or micro economic reforms implimented by Howard, Fraser or Abbott.

There are plenty, but you would either dispute them, deny them or pretend I didnt reply.

BTW the cuts to company tax came under ABBOTT. At least try and get your biased idiocy correct.

Totally incorrect - I beleive it was YOU who posted less than a week ago that Labor had reduced CT to 33% and your mat ToJo had reduced it to 30%..... nice little kick either way...

Do you even remember what you post? Or do you make it up on the fly?

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