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Reply #60 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 1:09pm

Chew down on this.... it's only Wiki, but hell.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Norway

"The economy of Norway is a developed mixed economy with state-ownership in strategic areas. Although sensitive to global business cycles, the economy of Norway has shown robust growth since the start of the industrial era. Shipping has long been a support of Norway's export sector, but much of Norway's economic growth has been fueled by an abundance of natural resources, including petroleum exploration and production, hydroelectric power, and fisheries. Agriculture and traditional heavy manufacturing have suffered relative decline compared to services and oil-related industries, and the public sector is among the largest in the world as a percentage of the overall gross domestic product. The country has a very high standard of living compared with other European countries, and a strongly integrated welfare system. Norway's modern manufacturing and welfare system rely on a financial reserve produced by exploitation of natural resources, particularly North Sea oil".

Bite down hard.... compare this with Australia at this time..... where are our 'mixed industries' these days? All gone with the wind...... hardly any fisheries, hardly any timber felling, disappearing tertiary industry and heavy industry, a sell-out petroleum industry (price linked to Singapore, an oil-less island) - and a desperate shove by governments to dispose of any control over 'strategic industries' AND infrastructure such as roads etc, and to shuffle off all social security in every way (apart from that which benefits themselves, of course).

Where is the comparison with Norway? Roll Eyes

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Reply #61 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:29pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:35pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:41am:

What private sector?

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......that says it all Grin

Seriously, what real private sector outside of the Liberal Parties vested interests? Australia has some of the lowest capital expenditure in the western world, Australia has a massively centralized economy dominated by a handful of sectors.

Capital expenditure has completely collapsed under Liberal Government, Abbott purposely chased away billions of dollars of outside investment in the Australian economy.

Howard sat on his hands for a DECADE doing basically nothing while Australian development studios and research pissed off overseas. The largest Solar company on earth was developed in New South Wales and is now owned by the Chinese Government, all thanks to Howard.

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Business cartels are illegal under competition legislation.

Oh okay, giant conglomerations of landed businesses that work together to keep a stranglehold on the Australian economy and pay off Politicians to do their bidding. Is that better for you

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Competition is essential to a healthy economy.

Which is why the Liberal party has done everything in it's power to chase away any industry or development or investment of anything that hurts their backers?

Take a leaf out of your own book.

Oh and I love how that dumbbugger Maria thinks the GFC never happened, yet the world is going through a massive downturn which has ended all investment in Australia apparently. Grin

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #62 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:08pm Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am: Mods, can Maria please be banned. What does she/he even contribute to any conversation ever apart from abuse? And the silly twat STILL knows NOTHING about communism.
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Reply #63 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:19pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:31pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

All Liberals do is stagnate the economy and progress.

Basically every Liberal Government has been "lost years" of development.

What rot.

The liberals foster the private sector, which is by far the biggest portion of the economy whilst trying to balance the budget.

Whilst the Left's primary mission in life is to bring down the private sector? Roll Eyes

It's the left that is the economic retardant.

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Strange. The major reforms to support business in Australia have all been Labor’s. Even Gillard did more in her time than Howard. Cuts to company tax, raising the super contribution, funding paid parental leave, reforming the disability sector to ensure more workforce participation.

The most Howard did in his time was introduce Workchoices, only to have it all scrapped because he went too far.

I don’t support either major party, but I’d love to see a list of macro or micro economic reforms implimented by Howard, Fraser or Abbott.

There are plenty, but you would either dispute them, deny them or pretend I didnt reply.

BTW the cuts to company tax came under ABBOTT. At least try and get your biased idiocy correct.

So provide a list, dear, there's no need to be coy with us. We'll have a little look-see.

I promise to reply.

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #64 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 7:36am Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am: Mods, can Maria please be banned. What does she/he even contribute to any conversation ever apart from abuse? Take the hint...
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Reply #65 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 7:42am

Kat wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am:

Mods, can Maria please be banned. What does she/he even contribute to any conversation ever apart from abuse?

And the silly twat STILL knows NOTHING about communism.

If that happens, can Kat be banned also for twice as long due to abuse?

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Reply #66 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 7:56am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

Kat wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am:

Mods, can Maria please be banned. What does she/he even contribute to any conversation ever apart from abuse?

And the silly twat STILL knows NOTHING about communism.

If that happens, can Kat be banned also for twice as long due to abuse?

Says the Very Nice Person calling anyone who challenges him or his belief “idiot” or “bloody idiot” etc like 20 times a day.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75097 Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #67 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 8:01am mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:41pm: I could answer, but really, what would be the point? who are you trying to kid?
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Re: Third World Governments, First World Country
Reply #68 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 11:38am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 7:36am:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am:

Mods, can Maria please be banned. What does she/he even contribute to any conversation ever apart from abuse?

Take the hint...

Good idea, dear. Post a kooky sign and duck out of the thread.

That should do it.

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Grappler Deep State Feller

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Reply #69 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 11:54am

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 8:01am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:41pm:

I could answer, but really, what would be the point?

who are you trying to kid? Cheesy

Anyone can provide and answer - the virtue of the answer lies in its content.......

I believe it is the content that longmania is afraid to show for fear of copping the usual roasting for uttering nonsense....

On the positive side, I have noted that longmania posts the occasional gem of truth.. however.. the effect of such things on the public mind is drowned out by the Niagara of falsehoods, assumptions, unproven and unsupported statements and personal vitriol.

Of course, that is the sign of an educated mind schooled in research.....

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85220 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #70 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 12:12pm longmania also has a decided Hitlerian approach... of taking on more enemies than he can chew....
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Third World Governments, First World Country Reply #71 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 12:26pm
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