And the object lesson in all of this ?






And i can assure you, that our choices in this life,          ......will invariably be based upon what type of spirits [yes, plural] are within our hearts!


Matthew 12:35
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.


Matthew 6:21
......where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22  The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!




God [my God!] has been very clever.        [....in his plan]

Whereas, many, many men, though they think that in choosing what is evil, that they are wise [i.e. in choosing something to their own advantage],        ......they are demonstrating how dumb they are !

God [my God!] [in his creation] has planted a 'crop'.

We are the harvest.

And, in a harvest, what happens to the damaged/worthless fruit ???


Matthew 3:10
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.


Matthew 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48  Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.


Luke 3:9
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.


John 15:6
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.





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God, is a spirit.

Did you hear God call out to you ?


Isaiah 1:4
Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
5  Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6  From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
7  Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.


Isaiah 1:21
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
22  Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:
23  Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.


Isaiah 65:11
But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
12  Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.


Isaiah 66:4
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.



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Yadda said....
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Psalms 51:10
Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
11  Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

You could probably write an entire book on nihilism (some already have). One point I'll make though is that relentless analysing and criticism of everything disenchants the world and can result in a depressive effect. This process began at least since the time of the Enlightenment. A select few can affirm this effect and turn it around, but the masses cannot; hence why they live a life of constant self-gratification - to numb the pain of nothingness.

Well said, John, you boozy old "Taverner." Religion in the God fearing sense, is a cop-out, among other things.

One of my favourites songs. I like lyrics with meaning behind them.

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It's more about hedonism, than nihilism, if you ask me... and even then, it's being critical of current societal trends, and the natural instincts of humans (the human condition).

And it's not only the dirty atheists that indulge in these "meaningless" behaviours

boxy,

Thanks for the lyrics quote.....


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Dictionary;
nihilism = =
1 the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.
2 extreme scepticism, maintaining that nothing has a real existence.

Yadda wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:32pm:

Yes, Yadda, thoughtful atheists do struggle to find meaning in their lives. In the same way that honest and intelligent theists do.

At least we admit that the meaning we find is of our own making... you guys have to invent some imaginary sky fairy to tell you it's all going to be alright.

You still don't seem to be getting the concept, that Lily is singing about the struggle to find meaning in a modern world, and you know what, I'm pretty sure she has. Seems like a very intelligent, thoughtful, and morally aware woman, to me. In a much better position than most of the rest of us, who don't generally contemplate the big questions unless forced to.

boxy wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:



That is correct boxy.

That is the attitude, to perception, to have!

/sarc off


Because you have never experienced a [particular] knowledge,      ...well, that certainly means that you can never know that knowledge, ever.

Because you stand on a beach, and because you see, with your own eyes,     .....that the ocean before you, just goes on and on, 'forever and ever',       .....then there cannot be a land beyond the horizon YOUR horizon.



boxy,

You atheists [clearly] live within a very, very small universe.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

- Shakespeare


Except a creator.

A creator cannot exist.

Coz, atheists have never seen him.

So that, is proof!!!

It's scientific too!