Australian Politics Forum - Told you Gillard was great!

John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75097 Gender:	Re: Told you Gillard was great! Reply #60 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:58am Black Orchid wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 11:19pm: Show us the stats Roll Eyes http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/content/tobacco-kff
Back to top	Our esteemed leader: I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus. IP Logged

the good ole boys

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 658
Gender: male

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #61 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:59am

Karnal wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 11:47pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:54pm:

I'm all for women getting a go but as a leader she was atrocious. One I remember is Gillard by passing an experienced person to appoint Nova Peris Assbone (who had no experience at all) as Aboriginal Affairs Minister . It was one of those "captains picks". Nova anyways starts a travelling on the public purse and goes to the states. There she gets shagged by one of those big Man Dingo black athletes one night on the turps. Anyways Nova feels touched for the very first time AGAIN and decides to hook it up so her shagger can do a tour of Australia on the public purse . He's paid thousands of dollars to come out here and do school tours. You know why ?? So she can get him away from his wife and they can continue their affair. She even admitted to it. You know the funny thing?? SHE DIDN'T GET THE SACK. SHE'S STILL IN POLITICS!!!! Grin

That’s what blacks do, Homo. They fly each other around the world on the public purse in order to breed. Is it any wonder decent white people won’t let their daughters anywhere near these Mandingos?

Disowning your children for hanging around blacks isn’t racist. You and I live with these people, Homo, so we know what they’re like.

Gillard had the nerve to promote one of the ungrateful black bitches. If that’s not treason I don’t know what is.

Making a joke out of political corruption. You've hit a new low Cherry Blossum.

Back to top

IP Logged

Kiron22

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 896
Gender: male

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #62 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:04am

Abbott is the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen.

Incompetent on literally every level, engaged in crazy levels of class warfare against the working class.

Again, I would like to point out, imagine if Gillard even engaged in 10% of the levels of lala land of Abbott, she would be 6 ft under right now.

The insane bias of the Australian media can easily be seen between the difference in coverage of Abbott and Gillard. Even the ABC were basically reposting OP'ed and articles from the Australian, the ABC called Gillards misogyny speech "whinging" and didn't even report on it until it blew up in international media, several times, the ABC "accidentally" called Julia "Juliar" in articles, showing the culture that was prevalent in ABC circles at the time (likely they were an internal joke and would be expected to be taken out when given to the editor)

It shows how crazy the political narrative in Australia is controlled by a clique of incestuous Journalists in the Canberra Press Gallery.

March in March had what? 80,000 protesters, not a single mainstream media outlet reported on it. Not even Fairfax.

Bogan trucker anti-carbon tax rally with 150 people was literally was covered by the media 24/7 and had the entirety of Canberra in lockdown. Seriously, they had road blocks here and everything.

Back to top

IP Logged

Black Orchid

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 5813
Gender: female

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #63 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:56am

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:58am:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

Show us the stats Roll Eyes

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/content/tobacco-kff

There has been a steady decrease in smoking for many years and plain packaging was only introduced in December, 2012. There are many variables that cannot be charted.

Plain packaging is a good thing and may stop some people from taking up the habit but it cannot be claimed as a 'resounding' success without taking into account the huge rise in the illegal tobacco trade and the huge price hikes that have taken place between 2012 and 2015 both of which would have considerably more impact on quitting.

Quote:

Black market in tobacco booming in the streets of Sydney, with cheap Asian imports flooding the streets

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/news/black-market-in-tobacco-booming-...

Quote:

In this year's budget the government revised down its December estimate of tobacco excise revenue by $500million suggesting it expects about 1billion fewer cigarettes to be sold in 2013-14 than it did six months ago.

"The latest increase breaches significant price points," Australian Council on Smoking and Health president Mike Daube said.

"It'll cost $7000 a year to smoke a pack a day.

"We estimate that just as a result of this increase, around 800 million fewer cigarettes will be smoked in Australia and around 60,000 smokers will quit.

Treasury data posted on the Health Department's website shows sales slid 3.4 per cent from 2012 to last year. Plain packaging became mandatory on December 1, 2012. Tobacco excise was increased by 12.5 per cent in December last year.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/a-dollar-to-light-up-smoke...

Back to top

IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #64 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 2:34pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:04am:

Abbott is the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen.

Incompetent on literally every level, engaged in crazy levels of class warfare against the working class.

Again, I would like to point out, imagine if Gillard even engaged in 10% of the levels of lala land of Abbott, she would be 6 ft under right now.

The insane bias of the Australian media can easily be seen between the difference in coverage of Abbott and Gillard. Even the ABC were basically reposting OP'ed and articles from the Australian, the ABC called Gillards misogyny speech "whinging" and didn't even report on it until it blew up in international media, several times, the ABC "accidentally" called Julia "Juliar" in articles, showing the culture that was prevalent in ABC circles at the time (likely they were an internal joke and would be expected to be taken out when given to the editor)

It shows how crazy the political narrative in Australia is controlled by a clique of incestuous Journalists in the Canberra Press Gallery.

March in March had what? 80,000 protesters, not a single mainstream media outlet reported on it. Not even Fairfax.

Bogan trucker anti-carbon tax rally with 150 people was literally was covered by the media 24/7 and had the entirety of Canberra in lockdown. Seriously, they had road blocks here and everything.

ABC NEVER used 'juliar'. the 80,000 protestors was in fact only 2000 and the rest of your rubbish shows just hos communism is actually a mental illness.

Back to top

IP Logged

Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Told you Gillard was great! Reply #65 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:21pm The ABC did use Juliar. March in March was not just 2,000 people. Jesus christ you're an buggerg idiot. F*k off.
Back to top	IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #66 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:29pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:21pm:

The ABC did use Juliar.

March in March was not just 2,000 people.

Jesus christ you're an bugger*g idiot. F**k off.

CITATION please. AS a communist you are well versed in lying propoganda so we need proof thanks!

Going to tell us again of all the technological triumphs of soviet Russia and how the west stole all their good ideas? I could do with some more Christmas Party stories to entertain the well-heeled while we mock the underclass that is you and your fellow angst-filled, communist fools.

Back to top

IP Logged

Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Told you Gillard was great! Reply #67 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:30pm How in bugger are you not banned?
Back to top	IP Logged

Dnarever

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 59182
Here
Gender: male

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #68 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:32pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:04am:

Abbott is the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen.

Incompetent on literally every level, engaged in crazy levels of class warfare against the working class.

Again, I would like to point out, imagine if Gillard even engaged in 10% of the levels of lala land of Abbott, she would be 6 ft under right now.

The insane bias of the Australian media can easily be seen between the difference in coverage of Abbott and Gillard. Even the ABC were basically reposting OP'ed and articles from the Australian, the ABC called Gillards misogyny speech "whinging" and didn't even report on it until it blew up in international media, several times, the ABC "accidentally" called Julia "Juliar" in articles, showing the culture that was prevalent in ABC circles at the time (likely they were an internal joke and would be expected to be taken out when given to the editor)

It shows how crazy the political narrative in Australia is controlled by a clique of incestuous Journalists in the Canberra Press Gallery.

March in March had what? 80,000 protesters, not a single mainstream media outlet reported on it. Not even Fairfax.

Bogan trucker anti-carbon tax rally with 150 people was literally was covered by the media 24/7 and had the entirety of Canberra in lockdown. Seriously, they had road blocks here and everything.

ABC NEVER used 'juliar'. the 80,000 protestors was in fact only 2000 and the rest of your rubbish shows just hos communism is actually a mental illness.

Quote:

March in March national convenor Tim Jones said according to initial reports from ‘‘news sources’’, 112,000 people had attended about 20 marches around the nation, with 12,000 turning up in Sydney.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/march-in-march-tony-abbott-gina-rinehart-cop-blasts-in-sydney-protest-20140316-34v63.html#ixzz3uk1icmH4
Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook

30,000 in Melbourne.

Back to top

IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #69 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:38pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

How in bugger are you not banned?

For asking you to prove your claims? You forget this is not your beloved USSR with its fatal intolerance of divergent opinions. And it isnt me swearing... that would be you as you get frustrated facing off against a clearly better educated and politically-aware foe.

Back to top

IP Logged

mariacostel

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 7344
Sydney
Gender: female

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #70 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:39pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:04am:

Abbott is the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen.

Incompetent on literally every level, engaged in crazy levels of class warfare against the working class.

Again, I would like to point out, imagine if Gillard even engaged in 10% of the levels of lala land of Abbott, she would be 6 ft under right now.

The insane bias of the Australian media can easily be seen between the difference in coverage of Abbott and Gillard. Even the ABC were basically reposting OP'ed and articles from the Australian, the ABC called Gillards misogyny speech "whinging" and didn't even report on it until it blew up in international media, several times, the ABC "accidentally" called Julia "Juliar" in articles, showing the culture that was prevalent in ABC circles at the time (likely they were an internal joke and would be expected to be taken out when given to the editor)

It shows how crazy the political narrative in Australia is controlled by a clique of incestuous Journalists in the Canberra Press Gallery.

March in March had what? 80,000 protesters, not a single mainstream media outlet reported on it. Not even Fairfax.

Bogan trucker anti-carbon tax rally with 150 people was literally was covered by the media 24/7 and had the entirety of Canberra in lockdown. Seriously, they had road blocks here and everything.

ABC NEVER used 'juliar'. the 80,000 protestors was in fact only 2000 and the rest of your rubbish shows just hos communism is actually a mental illness.

Quote:

March in March national convenor Tim Jones said according to initial reports from ‘‘news sources’’, 112,000 people had attended about 20 marches around the nation, with 12,000 turning up in Sydney.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/march-in-march-tony-abbott-gina-rinehart-cop-blasts-in-sydney-protest-20140316-34v63.html#ixzz3uk1icmH4
Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook

30,000 in Melbourne.

https://truthinmediaresourcecentre.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/sydney-marchers1....

http://thumb9.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1500320/230438092/stock-pho...

that looks a lot like 3000. 30,000 would fill a third of the MCG. This mob would fit in one of the stands.

Back to top

IP Logged

Armchair_Politician

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 26280
Gender: male

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #71 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:43pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:04am:

Abbott is the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen.

Incompetent on literally every level, engaged in crazy levels of class warfare against the working class.

Again, I would like to point out, imagine if Gillard even engaged in 10% of the levels of lala land of Abbott, she would be 6 ft under right now.

The insane bias of the Australian media can easily be seen between the difference in coverage of Abbott and Gillard. Even the ABC were basically reposting OP'ed and articles from the Australian, the ABC called Gillards misogyny speech "whinging" and didn't even report on it until it blew up in international media, several times, the ABC "accidentally" called Julia "Juliar" in articles, showing the culture that was prevalent in ABC circles at the time (likely they were an internal joke and would be expected to be taken out when given to the editor)

It shows how crazy the political narrative in Australia is controlled by a clique of incestuous Journalists in the Canberra Press Gallery.

March in March had what? 80,000 protesters, not a single mainstream media outlet reported on it. Not even Fairfax.

Bogan trucker anti-carbon tax rally with 150 people was literally was covered by the media 24/7 and had the entirety of Canberra in lockdown. Seriously, they had road blocks here and everything.

You're delusional. Rudd is the worst, closely followed by Gillard. Rudd even got caught calling the Chinese "rat fvckers" and is the only PM in living memory to have enacted policies that are directly responsible for getting people killed (think illegal immigrants and pink batts). He is the only PM to have taken a considerable surplus and within 12 months turned it into a deficit. Then there's his litany of broken promises. Couldn't have been a worse PM if he tried. As for Gillard, she was a compulsive liar who treated everyone with utter contempt and blamed every negative news story about her on a gender war that was a figment of her imagination. Lets not forget her infamous broken promise on the carbon tax that destroyed Labor's hopes of governing beyond 2013 and lead to Labor's worst defeat ever in this country.

Back to top

IP Logged

Kiron22

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 896
Gender: male

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #72 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:44pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

How in bugger are you not banned?

For asking you to prove your claims? You forget this is not your beloved USSR with its fatal intolerance of divergent opinions. And it isnt me swearing... that would be you as you get frustrated facing off against a clearly better educated and politically-aware foe.

Tick, tock, tick, tock.

Wasting away your last years of life on an internet forum telling randoms how superior you are. How pathetic.

Back to top

IP Logged

Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59182 Here Gender:	Re: Told you Gillard was great! Reply #73 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:57pm Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:30pm: How in bugger are you not banned? I think it is that he is an equal opportunity abuser. He seems to insult almost everyone equally so it appears to just be normal.
Back to top	IP Logged

Dnarever

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 59182
Here
Gender: male

Re: Told you Gillard was great!
Reply #74 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:00pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:04am:

Abbott is the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen.

Incompetent on literally every level, engaged in crazy levels of class warfare against the working class.

Again, I would like to point out, imagine if Gillard even engaged in 10% of the levels of lala land of Abbott, she would be 6 ft under right now.

The insane bias of the Australian media can easily be seen between the difference in coverage of Abbott and Gillard. Even the ABC were basically reposting OP'ed and articles from the Australian, the ABC called Gillards misogyny speech "whinging" and didn't even report on it until it blew up in international media, several times, the ABC "accidentally" called Julia "Juliar" in articles, showing the culture that was prevalent in ABC circles at the time (likely they were an internal joke and would be expected to be taken out when given to the editor)

It shows how crazy the political narrative in Australia is controlled by a clique of incestuous Journalists in the Canberra Press Gallery.

March in March had what? 80,000 protesters, not a single mainstream media outlet reported on it. Not even Fairfax.

Bogan trucker anti-carbon tax rally with 150 people was literally was covered by the media 24/7 and had the entirety of Canberra in lockdown. Seriously, they had road blocks here and everything.

ABC NEVER used 'juliar'. the 80,000 protestors was in fact only 2000 and the rest of your rubbish shows just hos communism is actually a mental illness.

Quote:

March in March national convenor Tim Jones said according to initial reports from ‘‘news sources’’, 112,000 people had attended about 20 marches around the nation, with 12,000 turning up in Sydney.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/march-in-march-tony-abbott-gina-rinehart-cop-blasts-in-sydney-protest-20140316-34v63.html#ixzz3uk1icmH4
Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook

30,000 in Melbourne.

https://truthinmediaresourcecentre.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/sydney-marchers1....

http://thumb9.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1500320/230438092/stock-pho...

that looks a lot like 3000. 30,000 would fill a third of the MCG. This mob would fit in one of the stands.

The official estimates were about 30,000 pictures from one angle only show a lot of people. But when the pictures from many directions show people as far as the eye can see you can safely assume that it looks fairly serious.

Your estimate of 2 000 stated is just wrong. The pictures from each march show more than that and a total over 100,000 looks credible. You should have let his conservative 80,000 stand as it was actually more than that.

Back to top

IP Logged