Australian Politics Forum - Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!

Grappler Deep State Feller

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 85070
Always was always will be HOME
Gender: male

Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:40pm

Now that I've got your attention.....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30396397/nsw-councils-bracing-for-forced-mergers/

"NSW councils are bracing for big changes with Premier Mike Baird expected to announce a series of forced mergers.

In Sydney alone, local governments face a major shake-up as 43 councils become 25 as part of the state government's Fit For the Future reforms.

Warringah mayor Michael Regan said his council and residents feel "dismayed, shocked and a little bit betrayed" by the reported plans, to be announced by Mr Baird on Friday.

Nearly two-thirds of the state's councils were not financially "fit for the future" an Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal (IPART) review found in October."

Hmm - another one of those 'star chamber' tribunals...... hmmmm.. again hmmmm.....

Back to top

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams

IP Logged

John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74973 Gender:	Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!! Reply #1 - Dec 18^th, 2015 at 10:08pm Good idea ... to many pigs at the trough. Once he's finished with them then we can abolish State governments too!
Back to top	Our esteemed leader: I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus. IP Logged

BlueBeard

Senior Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 387
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #2 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:34am

John Smith wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 10:08pm:

Good idea ... to many pigs at the trough. Once he's finished with them then we can abolish State governments too!

I would say that most of the residence would agree with you John

too many small men/women using local council as a power grab to try and push their idiotic ideologies onto the masses

like those halfwit councillors that spent 30,000 each to go to the climate BS in Paris uninvited

all they need to do is empty the bins, sweep the streets and fill the bloody potholes

Back to top

IP Logged

Jovial Monk

Gold Member

Offline

Dogs not cats!

Posts: 47794
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #3 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:06am

It will see some sound, well managed councils jammed into a marriage with a badly managed council in debt just so the former can pay the latter’s debt.

The Port Adelaide and Enfield merger here was one such. Pt Adelaide had made stupid investments and was in debt. Enfield is an unglamorous area and the council just collected the rubbish etc, built up a nice bank balance which went to pay the Pt Adelaide council debt.

Is it a good idea? Dunno. The huge amalgamated councils will have huge rates revenue coming in to it and that will attract spivs and shonks. Huge councils also take the “local” out of “local councils.”

Back to top

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.

IP Logged

Gnads

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 29856
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #4 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:40am

It's just bs in most cases.

I understand some small regional shires being merged but many of the larger towns/cities has been a case of one propping up another ....

Councillor going from being a community minded volunteer who holds a job & gets paid an allowance to be a Councillor.....

to a fully paid (e.g. $80,000 plus a car - making it a $100k pa)position or a career for the self serving type ...

Councils have have gone from being service & infrastructure oriented into entrepreneurial/property development enterprises..........

where the rates just climb & climb ... & the rate payer is treated as a cash cow for all their grandiose ideas of making money.

This is encouraged by state govts ... in the hope they don't have to provide funding.

Back to top

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais

IP Logged

red baron

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 10204
Blue Mountains
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #5 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:30am

Hate to say 'told you so' but this imposter who sold off the Electricity Grid when the stupid public couldn't see what was going to happen 10 years down the road deserve it.

Baird is going to jack petrol 8 cents a litre to pay for bloody ethanol pumps.

What he is doing is catastrophic for the average working Joe.

The Council thing is just another page in this imposter's page book.

Back to top

« Last Edit: Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:43am by red baron »

IP Logged

Grappler Deep State Feller

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 85070
Always was always will be HOME
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #6 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 9:41am

Gnads wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:40am:

It's just bs in most cases.

I understand some small regional shires being merged but many of the larger towns/cities has been a case of one propping up another ....

Councillor going from being a community minded volunteer who holds a job & gets paid an allowance to be a Councillor.....

to a fully paid (e.g. $80,000 plus a car - making it a $100k pa)position or a career for the self serving type ...

Councils have have gone from being service & infrastructure oriented into entrepreneurial/property development enterprises..........

where the rates just climb & climb ... & the rate payer is treated as a cash cow for all their grandiose ideas of making money.

This is encouraged by state govts ... in the hope they don't have to provide funding.

You mean the likes of the Deputy Sharif of Auburn aren't in the game to provide service to the people? Well.. I never! Obviously the ratepayers pay these clowns to sit down and work out how to feather their own nests... talk about corruption of the highest order...

Down here the council is dominated by dairy farmers - who unsurprisingly work everything out for their own best interests, even though the majority of people here have nothing to do with farming (obviously). We're watching the spectacle of a Taj Mahal new council building and new car park across the road from it taking endless months to construct and end up with a car park that is little different from the original - while our local roads are the roads to perdition and full of pot holes - the Holey Roaders we are.....

This council area is too big to amalgamate - who would we join with? they've already absorbed all the local councils here and it's basically a big valley bowl complex surrounded by hills on all sides... so we're stuck with the fools we've got.

Back to top

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams

IP Logged

bogarde73

Gold Member

Offline

Anti-Global & Contra Mundum

Posts: 18443
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #7 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:06pm

I don't see what fascism has to do with this.
A bit of hyperbole.

Sounds to me like a good bit of reorganisation, injecting economies of scale into the whole local govt situation. We can't continue with 100 year old structures to deal with 21st century problems.

Don't see why Clover's fiefdom should be exempt though.

Back to top

Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.

IP Logged

cods

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 88048

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #8 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

red baron wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:30am:

Hate to say 'told you so' but this imposter who sold off the Electricity Grid when the stupid public couldn't see what was going to happen 10 years down the road deserve it.

Baird is going to jack petrol 8 cents a litre to pay for bloody ethanol pumps.

What he is doing is catastrophic for the average working Joe.

The Council thing is just another page in this imposter's page book.

what a ridiculous post..

PROGRESS mate..

these councils are mini EMPIRES.. they even spend half their time FIGHTING amongst themselves.. its rubbish...

and then we have Auburn Council where they have a developer elected and he closes off street for his own wedding..

so many use it for their own business.... and are mismanaged to the point of b eing taken over by Administrations...

its about time rate payers got their monies worth,,. mine go up every year but the services dont... we used to get road cleaning services...not anymore...we wait for heavy rain

btw he didnt SELL OFF ANYTHING ... he LEASED IT>>

Roll Eyes

Back to top

IP Logged

cods

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 88048

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #9 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:34pm

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

I don't see what fascism has to do with this.
A bit of hyperbole.

Sounds to me like a good bit of reorganisation, injecting economies of scale into the whole local govt situation. We can't continue with 100 year old structures to deal with 21st century problems.

Don't see why Clover's fiefdom should be exempt though.

they love looking on the grim side... and most of those councils are labor run....thats why they are dysfunctional

havent you noticed anything that the Libs do to try to save money this lot scream like babies..and do everything to block it.. I for one am sick of reading about councils who do bugger all except take trips to sister cities usually somewhere exotic..... or spend months make a decisions that is costing millions..

we created a monster and all its done is GROW

Back to top

IP Logged

Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58992 Here Gender:	Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!! Reply #10 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:46pm Half the people resources and structure to look after twice as much area with double the population. Lots of unemployment created. Does not look like a good idea on the surface, I suspect many of todays problems relate to them being stretched too thin as it is.
Back to top	IP Logged

Sun Tzu

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 1148
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #11 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:55pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:40pm:

Now that I've got your attention.....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30396397/nsw-councils-bracing-for-forced-mergers/

"NSW councils are bracing for big changes with Premier Mike Baird expected to announce a series of forced mergers.

In Sydney alone, local governments face a major shake-up as 43 councils become 25 as part of the state government's Fit For the Future reforms.

Warringah mayor Michael Regan said his council and residents feel "dismayed, shocked and a little bit betrayed" by the reported plans, to be announced by Mr Baird on Friday.

Nearly two-thirds of the state's councils were not financially "fit for the future" an Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal (IPART) review found in October."

Hmm - another one of those 'star chamber' tribunals...... hmmmm.. again hmmmm.....

There's not one council in Australia that is efficient, honest and free from corruption.

Australians get the government they deserve.

Back to top

Make my day

IP Logged

Dnarever

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 58992
Here
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #12 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:49pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 9:40pm:

Now that I've got your attention.....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30396397/nsw-councils-bracing-for-forced-mergers/

"NSW councils are bracing for big changes with Premier Mike Baird expected to announce a series of forced mergers.

In Sydney alone, local governments face a major shake-up as 43 councils become 25 as part of the state government's Fit For the Future reforms.

Warringah mayor Michael Regan said his council and residents feel "dismayed, shocked and a little bit betrayed" by the reported plans, to be announced by Mr Baird on Friday.

Nearly two-thirds of the state's councils were not financially "fit for the future" an Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal (IPART) review found in October."

Hmm - another one of those 'star chamber' tribunals...... hmmmm.. again hmmmm.....

There's not one council in Australia that is efficient, honest and free from corruption.

Australians get the government they deserve.

The most likely outcome of compressing it all would be to further entrench and multiply the corrupt elements.

Back to top

IP Logged

John Smith

Gold Member

Online

Australian Politics

Posts: 74973
Gender: male

Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!!
Reply #13 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:24pm

cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

havent you noticed anything that the Libs do to try to save money this lot scream like babies..and do everything to block it.

what's wrong with you? seriously? this has nothing to do with opposing 'what the libs want to do'.

I , a 'leftie' supported the move, Red a 'rightie' is opposed.

Except that you were to busy with your usual 'left v right' crap to even notice Cheesy

Back to top

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

IP Logged

Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58992 Here Gender:	Re: Fascist Baird to trash local councils!! Reply #14 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 8:50pm cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:34pm: havent you noticed anything that the Libs do to try to save money this lot scream like babies..and do everything to block it. Haven't you noticed that anything the Libs have done to save money has backfired on us all.
Back to top	IP Logged