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Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest
Reply #15 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:40pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 10:14pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:44pm:
I don't know why you persist with this nail ... the adults are in charge now and there is no longer a budget emergency.


Try to keep up.




Emergency or not, 3/4 of the 1.1 Billion per month leaves our shores never to be seen again ... over a decade, that's $750 million x 12 x 10 = $90 billion ... gone!


Where do you form the idea that $1.1 billion / month leaves our shores never to be seen again.
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Reply #16 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:44pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:44pm:
I don't know why you persist with this nail ... the adults are in charge now and there is no longer a budget emergency.


Try to keep up.


I was just mesmerized by the 37 mill a day in interest payments alone !! Never mind the principal Sad


Peter Jean ( the author ) hasn't the foggiest idea about what he's banging on about. In real terms the feds pay no interest at all.
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Reply #17 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:46pm
 
crocodile wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:37pm:
Swagman wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:43pm:
It was zero when Rudd won office the first time.


..........oops.....an inconvenient truth  Cheesy


Not true. There were still $50 billion worth of outstanding bonds.


So?  Balance sheets have debits and credits.  The net figure is the pertinent one....
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Reply #18 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:51pm
 
Just think of all the anti-terrorism.ads Mr Abbott could fund with that.
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Reply #19 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:54pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:50pm:
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      “We risk living in a fool’s paradise if we think we can afford to keep the high level of public spending we locked in during the boom years,’’ Ms Carnell said.      


yes, Tony Abbott said this some time ago.
it is not rocket science and he does have a degree in economics.
He said "We are not paying off the interest on our debt, and if you do not do that you are stuffed."


But good on him for doubling it anyway.
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Reply #20 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:55pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:51pm:
Just think of all the anti-terrorism.ads Mr Abbott could fund with that.


Who?
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Reply #21 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 12:00am
 
Swagman wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:46pm:
crocodile wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:37pm:
Swagman wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:43pm:
It was zero when Rudd won office the first time.


..........oops.....an inconvenient truth  Cheesy


Not true. There were still $50 billion worth of outstanding bonds.


So?  Balance sheets have debits and credits.  The net figure is the pertinent one....


That may be so but it wasn't zero. Just a stickler for detail. In any case, without a debt market how would the RBA possibly manage monetary policy and set interest rate targets.
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Reply #22 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 12:02am
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:54pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:50pm:
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      “We risk living in a fool’s paradise if we think we can afford to keep the high level of public spending we locked in during the boom years,’’ Ms Carnell said.      


yes, Tony Abbott said this some time ago.
it is not rocket science and he does have a degree in economics.
He said "We are not paying off the interest on our debt, and if you do not do that you are stuffed."


But good on him for doubling it anyway.


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Reply #23 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 4:34am
 
Yeah, $70Bn debt was paid by selling at firesale prices public assets.

Then we had the boom and the profligate twins Howard and Costello blew the boom revenue on tax cuts and pork and built that into the Budget.

We know from MYEFO the stupid Libs have no intention of removing that profligacy from the Budget. But the Shorten Labor govt will from next year start doing just that.

Howard left like a $700Bn infrastructure deficit.
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Reply #24 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 5:29am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:41pm:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/37-million-a-day-just-to-pay-nations-interest...

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AUSTRALIANS will spend almost $37 million each day just to pay the interest on the nation’s borrowings, as the Government’s debt burden balloons.

But in releasing figures showing the budget deficit has blown out by $2.3 billion, Treasurer


Scott Morrison says the Federal Government will hold its nerve and continue its “patient” rescue of a struggling economy.

Those figures show that the national debt, now at $278 billion, will climb to $364.5 billion in four years’ time. It will cost taxpayers $1.1 billion a month - or $36.9 million a day - to pay the interest on that debt.

The Government’s Mid Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook statement shows the deficit will be $37.4 billion for 2015-16 and that the budget is likely to remain in the red until 2021.

Australians could be saddled with the equivalent of $30,000 of debt each unless steps are taken to prevent Gross Government Debt from breaking the $647 billion mark within a decade.

Mr Morrison on Tuesday announced $10.6 billion worth of spending cuts, including reductions in bulk-billing incentives for pathology, funding for aged care providers and tougher means-testing of childcare benefits.

The cuts more than offset $10.2 billion worth of additional spending the government has committed to since the May budget.

Mr Morrison said the Government was taking a “patient’’ approach towards repairing the budget because it did not want to risk damaging the economy or job creation.

“We’re not there yet but we’re not going to take detours, we’re not going to take short cuts,’’ he said.

“We’re not going to put the safety of the passengers at risk and those passengers are growth and jobs of Australians.

“That’s why we’ll remain very focused on this workmanlike approach to delivering on this task.’’

Mr Morrison’s approach is in contrast to former treasurer Joe Hockey’s failed attempt in 2014 to persuade the Senate to back harsh spending cuts.

The end of the mining boom has contributed to a $33.8 billion writedown in government revenue projections.

Government debt is projected to hit $552 billion in 2019, or $346.5 billion when measured on a net basis.

The pre-Christmas budget update, released in the middle of the financial year, included a downgrade in economic growth projections from 2.75 per cent to 2.5 per cent this financial year.

The national unemployment rate is expected to peak at 6 per cent next year. But this will be of little comfort to residents of South Australia, where the official jobless rate was 7.8 per cent last month.

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten criticised the Government for making cuts to health funding instead of doing more to tackle multinational tax evasion or closing superannuation tax concessions for high-income earners.

“The Liberal government’s budget is on a road to nowhere, with no prospect of improving,’’ Mr Shorten said.

Business groups said the MYEFO document demonstrated the need for government spending to be brought under control and the tax system to be overhauled.

Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry chief executive Kate Carnell said the budget update had confirmed that “the good old days’’ of windfall tax gains from strong commodity prices were over.

“We risk living in a fool’s paradise if we think we can afford to keep the high level of public spending we locked in during the boom years,’’ Ms Carnell said.

The Government will forgo $4.1 billion in tariff revenue over the next four years as a result of the free trade agreement with China.

But Finance Minister Mathias Cormann said the deal would benefit Australian exporters and consumers who could purchase cheaper Chinese goods.

Whats been hit

Health and aged care

■ $639 million from Medicare by scrapping bulk-billing incentives for pathology services, and changes to bulk-billing incentives for GP services and magnetic resonance imaging.

■ $472 million cut to aged care providers by changing the formula used to determine payments.

Working families

■ $441 million from childcare by reducing subsidies for families who earn more than $250,000, capping places in a subsidised nannies program and closing an affordability program.

■ $125.7 million over three years from Family Tax Benefit A by continuing to freeze the income level at which a means-test kicks in at $94,316.

■ $105.1 million over three years by treating parental leave payments as “income” when assessing eligibility for other payments.

Social Security

■ $2 billion from recovering welfare overpayments and cracking down on social security rorting.

The environment

■ $317.5 million from the Green Army by capping projects at 500 per annum.

Police

■ $65.8 million from Australian Federal Police through efficiencies from international deployment group program and returning unspent funds to Treasury.




Good post sir Nail,
notice how the Govt. always goes after the weak & disadvantaged for cutting costs & more tax -

never the big companies like Apple & Google for tax?
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Reply #25 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 5:41am
 
Typical neocon behavior, Bobby.
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Reply #26 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:26am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:43pm:
It was zero when Rudd won office the first time.

Debt has ballooned thanks to the Liberals and Nationals.  Incompetent!!!!!!
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Reply #27 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:30am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 5:41am:
Typical neocon behavior, Bobby.



Yes Jovial - punish the weak & easy targets -

let the big guys get off scott free.
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Reply #28 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:00am
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:51pm:
Just think of all the anti-terrorism.ads Mr Abbott could fund with that.


Given what happened in Paris, it'd be money well spent.
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Reply #29 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:02am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 4:34am:
Yeah, $70Bn debt was paid by selling at firesale prices public assets.

Then we had the boom and the profligate twins Howard and Costello blew the boom revenue on tax cuts and pork and built that into the Budget.

We know from MYEFO the stupid Libs have no intention of removing that profligacy from the Budget. But the Shorten Labor govt will from next year start doing just that.

Howard left like a $700Bn infrastructure deficit.


If you're referring to the debt when Howard took over, it was $96 billion, not $70 billion. As for this fictional deficit you constantly and wrongly refer to, there was no deficit when he left office - only a $22 billion surplus.
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