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Reply #30 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:56am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.

it's all tax avoidance. The fact that it's legal is what people are upset about. Cheesy

forgive longloser. he likes to think that one day he will own one of these big tax avoiding companies Cheesy

We all know you never will. You lack any of the abilities, drive or desire to improve yourself from the minimum wage renter you currently are.

What a nasty piece of work you are. Do you get wet from hating on working class people or something?

Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.

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Reply #31 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:59pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:32pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

Bam wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:04am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.

How can you post crap like this that is so utterly wrong? Are you trolling?
* Many of these companies are avoiding tax. Looks like you have tax avoidance and tax evasion mixed up again.
* Some of these companies are breaking the tax law, and the ATO are investigating some of them. The ATO would have more resources for compliance if the inept Abbott and numbskull Hockey hadn't slashed the ATO's compliance budget by tens of millions of dollars. Good decision, not!! Roll Eyes

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

Apparently the ignorance that afflicts forum posters on here ...

Says the poster who doesn't seem to know the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. Grin

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

... also afflicts the crossbench senators who appear to struggle with understanding the normally simple concept of PROFIT. Companies pay tax on PROFIT, not revenue.

Again, incorrect. Companies do not pay tax on profit. Companies pay tax on TAXABLE profit.

You had best refrain from posting further on this topic until you have mastered the basics of corporate taxation.

You are quite the economic retard. These companies are all acting legally otherwise they would be investigated. The reason people are upset is because like you, they are ignorant fools who think because a company has a revenue of $100M they would therefore automatically be paying $30M in tax.

Your misunderstanding of profit vs taxable profit is equally ignorant. 'profit' is a basic term of revenue minus costs. TAXABLE profit includes finance charges, previous losses and other associated legitimate costs associated with earning the profit. And 30% tax is paid by EVERY COMPANY on its taxable profit.

You just hate companies.

Yes but they have ONE UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. They are able to organize deductions so their tax liabilities are negligible. This a privilege that most people don't have particularly PAYE's !!

Typically one of the scams is deducting interest payments on loans from another arm of the same company !!

Stop trying to sugar coat it !!

You are wrong. PAYE have the same deductions as companies. If they are required to buy their own desk, computer, tools, contribute to power and water, they can claim it. If they have to borrow to buy their office equipment and rent their space, they can claim that too.

BUT NO ONE HAS TO, DO THEY?

And whilst they are at it lend themselves money and deduct the interest payments Cheesy

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Reply #32 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:42pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:56am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.

it's all tax avoidance. The fact that it's legal is what people are upset about. Cheesy

forgive longloser. he likes to think that one day he will own one of these big tax avoiding companies Cheesy

We all know you never will. You lack any of the abilities, drive or desire to improve yourself from the minimum wage renter you currently are.

What a nasty piece of work you are. Do you get wet from hating on working class people or something?

Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.

Dear Maria,

you're just jealous of sir Nail's success.

this is forgiven

namaste

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Reply #33 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:56am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.

it's all tax avoidance. The fact that it's legal is what people are upset about. Cheesy

forgive longloser. he likes to think that one day he will own one of these big tax avoiding companies Cheesy

We all know you never will. You lack any of the abilities, drive or desire to improve yourself from the minimum wage renter you currently are.

What a nasty piece of work you are. Do you get wet from hating on working class people or something?

Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.

Dear Maria,

you're just jealous of sir Nail's success.

this is forgiven

namaste

of his rented room and multi-colour 1992 commodore?

If he were successful he would not make so many drivelling, envy-laced posts.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106554 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First Reply #34 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:15pm Maria, Quote: of his rented room and multi-colour 1992 commodore? If he were successful he would not make so many drivelling, envy-laced posts. sir Nail wouldn't lower himself to drive a commodore - he drives a luxury imported car.
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Reply #35 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:15pm:

Maria,
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of his rented room and multi-colour 1992 commodore?

If he were successful he would not make so many drivelling, envy-laced posts.

sir Nail wouldn't lower himself to drive a commodore -

he drives a luxury imported car.

Which is unnamed of course. Do you mean a Suzuki hatch? Fully imported. Or perhaps a Datsun Sunny?

You really are a dim twit.

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Reply #36 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:53pm

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Tax transparency: Crack down on big companies before cutting welfare, say crossbenchers

Why not do both, jump on the welfare bludging scum that infest our country and the companies that employ people.

But most of all clamp down on those free-loading politicians that infest our lives.

The politics of envy has more than enough to go around.

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Reply #37 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.

Rusty has always denied being a successful anything, he has always blamed you for making u that little lie. He has never confirmed any of the bullsh1t stories that you are gullible to believe.

He treats you like his useful idiot.

But you two are a very successful team on this board aren't you? Grin

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Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First
Reply #38 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:09pm

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.

Rusty has always denied being a successful anything, he has always blamed you for making u that little lie. He has never confirmed any of the bullsh1t stories that you are gullible to believe.

You treats you like his useful idiot.

But you two are a very successful team on this board aren't you? Grin

Bobby doesn't come across as very bright.

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Reply #39 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:12pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.

Rusty has always denied being a successful anything, he has always blamed you for making u that little lie. He has never confirmed any of the bullsh1t stories that you are gullible to believe.

You treats you like his useful idiot.

But you two are a very successful team on this board aren't you? Grin

Bobby doesn't come across as very bright.

Maria - get that silly dress off - take the lippy off -

& put on some trousers. Grin

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Reply #40 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:14pm

cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

I am very much in favour of any crackdown on companies not paying tax..I do not think its right that a foreign company can do business here and yet escape paying ANY TAX..

thats pathetic and needs to stop....100%....

its the same with good bought on ebay.. let them pay GST...I dont care how small it is...make em pay..

600 companies its mind blowing..

if they found 600 welfare recipients fiddling their pensions they would b eon them like a tonn of bricks...

what the heck is this all about?????>..

and lefties dont kid yourself it was any different when your mob was in...

Agree cods, it's a disgrace.

And as for it not being different regardless of who is in power, that is mostly true. One main point of difference though - Labor introduced the tax transparency laws, the Liberals want to get rid of them. But both sides have gotten too cosy with large companies. The laws we have today are the sum total of all the laws passed since Federation minus the laws that have been repealed. What has happened over the years is that corporations have lobbied for numerous tax loopholes and corporate welfare and there has not been much effort made to clean out this accumulation of rorts.

The rorts have to be abolished.

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Reply #41 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:23pm

Bam wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

I am very much in favour of any crackdown on companies not paying tax..I do not think its right that a foreign company can do business here and yet escape paying ANY TAX..

thats pathetic and needs to stop....100%....

its the same with good bought on ebay.. let them pay GST...I dont care how small it is...make em pay..

600 companies its mind blowing..

if they found 600 welfare recipients fiddling their pensions they would b eon them like a tonn of bricks...

what the heck is this all about?????>..

and lefties dont kid yourself it was any different when your mob was in...

Agree cods, it's a disgrace.

And as for it not being different regardless of who is in power, that is mostly true. One main point of difference though - Labor introduced the tax transparency laws, the Liberals want to get rid of them. But both sides have gotten too cosy with large companies. The laws we have today are the sum total of all the laws passed since Federation minus the laws that have been repealed. What has happened over the years is that corporations have lobbied for numerous tax loopholes and corporate welfare and there has not been much effort made to clean out this accumulation of rorts.

The rorts have to be abolished.

define your rorts. Do them one at a time.

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Reply #42 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 5:39pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

Bam wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:04am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.

How can you post crap like this that is so utterly wrong? Are you trolling?
* Many of these companies are avoiding tax. Looks like you have tax avoidance and tax evasion mixed up again.
* Some of these companies are breaking the tax law, and the ATO are investigating some of them. The ATO would have more resources for compliance if the inept Abbott and numbskull Hockey hadn't slashed the ATO's compliance budget by tens of millions of dollars. Good decision, not!! Roll Eyes

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

Apparently the ignorance that afflicts forum posters on here ...

Says the poster who doesn't seem to know the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. Grin

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

... also afflicts the crossbench senators who appear to struggle with understanding the normally simple concept of PROFIT. Companies pay tax on PROFIT, not revenue.

Again, incorrect. Companies do not pay tax on profit. Companies pay tax on TAXABLE profit.

You had best refrain from posting further on this topic until you have mastered the basics of corporate taxation.

You are quite the economic retard. These companies are all acting legally otherwise they would be investigated. The reason people are upset is because like you, they are ignorant fools who think because a company has a revenue of $100M they would therefore automatically be paying $30M in tax.

And again you fail.

Revenue is not the same as profit or taxable profit. For someone who is claiming to be better informed, your inability to use correct terminology is rather hilarious.

What you fail to understand is that some of these companies are very close to the edge of legality with their tax affairs and some overstep the mark. Why do you think the ATO spends hundreds of millions a year on investigations and enforcement?

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

Your misunderstanding of profit vs taxable profit is equally ignorant.

Says the poster who has mixed up "profit" and "taxable profit" several times.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

'profit' is a basic term of revenue minus costs. TAXABLE profit includes finance charges, previous losses and other associated legitimate costs associated with earning the profit. And 30% tax is paid by EVERY COMPANY on its taxable profit.

"Associated legitimate costs" ... sounds like you have been spending too much time in the company of organised crime figures. Legitimate costs, legitimate tax deductions, legitimate businessmen, associates ...

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

You just hate companies.

You are a liar. You even lie about your gender, but you're fooling nobody.

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Reply #43 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 11:56am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:42am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.

it's all tax avoidance. The fact that it's legal is what people are upset about. Cheesy

forgive longloser. he likes to think that one day he will own one of these big tax avoiding companies Cheesy

We all know you never will. You lack any of the abilities, drive or desire to improve yourself from the minimum wage renter you currently are.

What a nasty piece of work you are. Do you get wet from hating on working class people or something?

Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.

Maria drives a Camry, Bobbie. But her hubbie drives a Merc.

Yes, Maria might not be a successful businessman, but she did come from money.

Give credit where credit's due, I say.

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Reply #44 - Dec 19^th, 2015 at 6:13pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 4:15pm:

Maria,
Quote:

of his rented room and multi-colour 1992 commodore?

If he were successful he would not make so many drivelling, envy-laced posts.

sir Nail wouldn't lower himself to drive a commodore -

he drives a luxury imported car.

Which is unnamed of course. Do you mean a Suzuki hatch? Fully imported. Or perhaps a Datsun Sunny?

You really are a dim twit.

and this coming from the dude that would defend Holden and Ford with his life now he is admitting what the product is really like Cheesy

LOL

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