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Reply #45 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:15pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 11:56am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:56am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:42am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.



it's all tax avoidance. The fact that it's legal is what people are upset about. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


forgive longloser. he likes to think that one day he will own one of these big tax avoiding companies Cheesy


We all know you never will. You lack any of the abilities, drive or desire to improve yourself from the minimum wage renter you currently are.


What a nasty piece of work you are. Do you get wet from hating on working class people or something?




Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.


Maria drives a Camry, Bobbie. But her hubbie drives a Merc.

Yes, Maria might not be a successful businessman, but she did come from money.

Give credit where credit's due, I say. 


so who actually is maria and who is her husband and how does longloser fit into this incestuous circle  ?
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Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First
Reply #46 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:22pm
 
Bam wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 5:39pm:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
Bam wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:04am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.

How can you post crap like this that is so utterly wrong? Are you trolling?
* Many of these companies are avoiding tax. Looks like you have tax avoidance and tax evasion mixed up again.
* Some of these companies are breaking the tax law, and the ATO are investigating some of them. The ATO would have more resources for compliance if the inept Abbott and numbskull Hockey hadn't slashed the ATO's compliance budget by tens of millions of dollars. Good decision, not!!  Roll Eyes

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
Apparently the ignorance that afflicts forum posters on here ...

Says the poster who doesn't seem to know the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion.  Grin

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
... also afflicts the crossbench senators who appear to struggle with understanding the normally simple concept of PROFIT.  Companies pay tax on PROFIT, not revenue.

Again, incorrect. Companies do not pay tax on profit. Companies pay tax on TAXABLE profit.

You had best refrain from posting further on this topic until you have mastered the basics of corporate taxation.



You are quite the economic retard.
These companies are all acting legally otherwise they would be investigated. The reason people are upset is because like you, they are ignorant fools who think because a company has a revenue of $100M they would therefore automatically be paying $30M in tax.

And again you fail.

Revenue is not the same as profit or taxable profit. For someone who is claiming to be better informed, your inability to use correct terminology is rather hilarious.

What you fail to understand is that some of these companies are very close to the edge of legality with their tax affairs and some overstep the mark. Why do you think the ATO spends hundreds of millions a year on investigations and enforcement?

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
Your misunderstanding of profit vs taxable profit is equally ignorant.

Says the poster who has mixed up "profit" and "taxable profit" several times.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
'profit' is a basic term of revenue minus costs. TAXABLE profit includes finance charges, previous losses and other associated legitimate costs associated with earning the profit. And 30% tax is paid by EVERY COMPANY on its taxable profit.

"Associated legitimate costs" ... sounds like you have been spending too much time in the company of organised crime figures. Legitimate costs, legitimate tax deductions, legitimate businessmen, associates ...

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
You just hate companies.

You are a liar. You even lie about your gender, but you're fooling nobody.



So that is a 'no' to detailing these alleged 'rorts'?  Of course you run when asked to detail your issues instead of just issuing blanket complaints - the mark of a fool.
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Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First
Reply #47 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:23pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 4:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 4:15pm:
Maria,
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of his rented room and multi-colour 1992 commodore?

If he were successful he would not make so many drivelling, envy-laced posts.



sir Nail wouldn't lower himself to drive a commodore -

he drives a luxury imported car.


Which is unnamed of course. Do you mean a Suzuki hatch? Fully imported. Or perhaps a Datsun Sunny?

You really are a dim twit.


and this coming from the dude that would defend Holden and Ford with his life now he is admitting what the product is really like Cheesy LOL


You should try following a conversation just for the novel experience.
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Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First
Reply #48 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:35pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 11:56am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:56am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:42am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.



it's all tax avoidance. The fact that it's legal is what people are upset about. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


forgive longloser. he likes to think that one day he will own one of these big tax avoiding companies Cheesy


We all know you never will. You lack any of the abilities, drive or desire to improve yourself from the minimum wage renter you currently are.


What a nasty piece of work you are. Do you get wet from hating on working class people or something?




Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.


Maria drives a Camry, Bobbie. But her hubbie drives a Merc.

Yes, Maria might not be a successful businessman, but she did come from money.

Give credit where credit's due, I say. 


so who actually is maria and who is her husband and how does longloser fit into this incestuous circle  ?


According to a number of people I am Longy, Quantum, Lee, General Li and a few others I forget.

Apparently anyone who is educated, articulate and of course, conservative, is the Longy/quantum/lee hybrid.

It largely shows off the limitations of the left-wing brain.

Mostly they make this claim when they have been schooled in a debate.
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Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First
Reply #49 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:36pm
 
Who said you are educated or intelligent?

If you were you wouldn’t resort to insult so much.
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Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First
Reply #50 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:47pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:36pm:
Who said you are educated or intelligent?

If you were you wouldn’t resort to insult so much.



List of Maria's insults from today:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1442900777/690#702
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Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First
Reply #51 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:48pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:22pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 5:39pm:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
Bam wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:04am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.

How can you post crap like this that is so utterly wrong? Are you trolling?
* Many of these companies are avoiding tax. Looks like you have tax avoidance and tax evasion mixed up again.
* Some of these companies are breaking the tax law, and the ATO are investigating some of them. The ATO would have more resources for compliance if the inept Abbott and numbskull Hockey hadn't slashed the ATO's compliance budget by tens of millions of dollars. Good decision, not!!  Roll Eyes

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
Apparently the ignorance that afflicts forum posters on here ...

Says the poster who doesn't seem to know the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion.  Grin

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
... also afflicts the crossbench senators who appear to struggle with understanding the normally simple concept of PROFIT.  Companies pay tax on PROFIT, not revenue.

Again, incorrect. Companies do not pay tax on profit. Companies pay tax on TAXABLE profit.

You had best refrain from posting further on this topic until you have mastered the basics of corporate taxation.



You are quite the economic retard.
These companies are all acting legally otherwise they would be investigated. The reason people are upset is because like you, they are ignorant fools who think because a company has a revenue of $100M they would therefore automatically be paying $30M in tax.

And again you fail.

Revenue is not the same as profit or taxable profit. For someone who is claiming to be better informed, your inability to use correct terminology is rather hilarious.

What you fail to understand is that some of these companies are very close to the edge of legality with their tax affairs and some overstep the mark. Why do you think the ATO spends hundreds of millions a year on investigations and enforcement?

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
Your misunderstanding of profit vs taxable profit is equally ignorant.

Says the poster who has mixed up "profit" and "taxable profit" several times.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
'profit' is a basic term of revenue minus costs. TAXABLE profit includes finance charges, previous losses and other associated legitimate costs associated with earning the profit. And 30% tax is paid by EVERY COMPANY on its taxable profit.

"Associated legitimate costs" ... sounds like you have been spending too much time in the company of organised crime figures. Legitimate costs, legitimate tax deductions, legitimate businessmen, associates ...

mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
You just hate companies.

You are a liar. You even lie about your gender, but you're fooling nobody.



So that is a 'no' to detailing these alleged 'rorts'?  Of course you run when asked to detail your issues instead of just issuing blanket complaints - the mark of a fool.

A sure sign that you're losing an argument is when you resorts to shouting your abuse.

I have detailed some of the rorts before, such as interest rorts and transfer pricing. I'm not going to waste my time detailing them again for your benefit because I know from experience that explaining things to you is like casting pearls before swine and I am not going to waste my time pandering to abusive idiots. I know that you are aware of my previous explanations because you posted in the threads afterwards. You can find them using the search function. If you're unable to use the search function that's not my problem.
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Re: Crack Down On Top End Of Town First
Reply #52 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:47pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:36pm:
Who said you are educated or intelligent?

If you were you wouldn’t resort to insult so much.



List of Maria's insults from today:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1442900777/690#702

Good thread, I shall use it from now on. Longy-maria abuses me about five times a day on average and I am now going to zero tolerance. Lock and load.
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Reply #53 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:51pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 11:42am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:42am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.



it's all tax avoidance. The fact that it's legal is what people are upset about. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Tax avoidance is illegal.

As Kerry Packer said if you don't minimise your tax you need your head read.




Kerry had a lot of money and power, and used it too, while on this earth, but in the end, the great reaper(equaliser) took him rather early in life.

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Reply #54 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:54pm
 
No point providing links or facts to Longy. Either insults or runs away.
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Reply #55 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:55pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:38am:
Bringing up discredited old crap to avoid answering a real question.

Exemptions on super will cost the Budget $170Bn over the forward estimates. I reckon these exemption need to be reduced and eventually gotten rid of entirely.


Super tax concessions are the biggest tax rort ever known; has any other country tax-free super for the over sixties?
Australia has enough legal tax rorts, yet some people or companies even try to dodge the least bit of tax required to pay.
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Reply #56 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:56pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 11:56am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:56am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 10:45am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:42am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:39am:
And once again, there is no tax avoidance in these companies at all. If that were so, the ATO would be after them... and they arent.



it's all tax avoidance. The fact that it's legal is what people are upset about. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


forgive longloser. he likes to think that one day he will own one of these big tax avoiding companies Cheesy


We all know you never will. You lack any of the abilities, drive or desire to improve yourself from the minimum wage renter you currently are.


What a nasty piece of work you are. Do you get wet from hating on working class people or something?




Yes - Maria is a nasty man -

the funny thing is that sir Nail is more successful than him -

Nail is an international businessman who drives a luxury car.


Maria drives a Camry, Bobbie. But her hubbie drives a Merc.

Yes, Maria might not be a successful businessman, but she did come from money.

Give credit where credit's due, I say. 


so who actually is maria and who is her husband and how does longloser fit into this incestuous circle  ?


Maria is an ex-negotiator fom Sydney. She was very successful at her craft.

Hubbie is an entrepreneur. He still goes into the office each day. He makes squillions. Maria helps him to spend it all.

Longy runs a small creative writing business, a one-man start-up. The Liberal Party is one of his clients. As Longy used to say, when you're given lemons, make lemonade. It doesn't make much money, but it keeps Longy busy.

Maria has a lot of respect for Longy. Maria never met him (she joined the board the day after Longy left), but she feels she understands him. They might live on opposite sides of the country, but they share a deeply human connection.

It's not that they're that good, just that everybody else are IDIOTS.
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Reply #57 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:57pm
 
Axe the tax.
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Reply #58 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:58pm
 
Bam wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:47pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:36pm:
Who said you are educated or intelligent?

If you were you wouldn’t resort to insult so much.



List of Maria's insults from today:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1442900777/690#702

Good thread, I shall use it from now on. Longy-maria abuses me about five times a day on average and I am now going to zero tolerance. Lock and load.



Longy/Maria has always been a real nasty one -

even back from the Yahoo days in 2007 -
before many of us came here when Yahoo politics closed down.
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Reply #59 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:04pm
 
What I don’t understand is why Longy doesn’t get banned despite all the foul insults all day long. When he did get banned recently it must have been for something exceptional!
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