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Reply #255 - Jan 1^st, 2016 at 11:35pm

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 10:27pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 3:44am:

ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 1:55am:

We only get the best from new Zealand, all the intellectuals.

Rusty Calley was considered 'mentally insufficient'... where do we draw the line?

We get all the 'Islander' crims.... and a few like my ex bro-in-law (I showed him that on a strange course, you could make par on the first two holes, something he'd never done before)...who actually contribute.

He's a major industrialist today in WA.

Stop smoking that sh!t. There are better ways to be someone.

Memories abound when I hear this song.

I bet they do.

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Reply #257 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 12:31am

ian wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 11:35pm:

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 10:27pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 3:44am:

ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 1:55am:

We only get the best from new Zealand, all the intellectuals.

Rusty Calley was considered 'mentally insufficient'... where do we draw the line?

We get all the 'Islander' crims.... and a few like my ex bro-in-law (I showed him that on a strange course, you could make par on the first two holes, something he'd never done before)...who actually contribute.

He's a major industrialist today in WA.

Stop smoking that sh!t. There are better ways to be someone.

Memories abound when I hear this song.

I bet they do.

I can understand you're curious Ian, so I'll tell you the memories. And they aren't what you'd choose to believe. Or remember.

Around 25 yrs ago ..we got married and moved far away.
Time passes. About 3 yrs.
A very dear friend of my husband, and mine, to a lesser extent, at that time, came to stay with us. He was an Aussie.

We were building our first home together, and this friend was a plasterer by trade, and he put in some real good work on our ceilings while he stayed. He was obviously upset about what was happening back down there, and eventually it came out.

His missus had done the dirty on him with another fella, and he felt estranged from their new baby. (We'd known her as his girlfriend) He loved that song.

This other fella had knocked over his Harley, and kicked his dog, as well, and taunted him. Much as we tried to keep him calm and safe, he couldn't stay away.
After about three weeks, he hopped a bus back. ( I begged him please don't do anything stupid.!!) He just sort of shrugged and smiled as the bus pulled away.

Next we heard.. he had taken a weapon, a shotgun I think, and went to where his missus was staying. The other fella wasn't there.

He fought with his missus, and when another person living there intervened, he killed him. He then left the house, with the Police closing on his heels, went to a nearby park and blew his own head off . Cry

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Reply #258 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:34am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

Marla wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:05pm:

Screw that. I want to orbit the Horsehead Nebula this Chrissiemissie. And I have no idea where that is. But I'm about to find out.

Normal Light:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/52238main_MM_image_feature_89_jw4.jpg

Infra Red:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-47130352,width-640,resizemode-4/h...

Bobby, don't you think its interesting that the conspiracy-spiritual-sensationalists can look at those pics and go "Wow, isn't the Universe cool," and then say the moon landing pictures are fake?

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Reply #259 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:39am

issuevoter wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

Marla wrote on Dec 19^th, 2015 at 3:05pm:

Screw that. I want to orbit the Horsehead Nebula this Chrissiemissie. And I have no idea where that is. But I'm about to find out.

Normal Light:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/52238main_MM_image_feature_89_jw4.jpg

Infra Red:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-47130352,width-640,resizemode-4/h...

Bobby, don't you think its interesting that the conspiracy-spiritual-sensationalists can look at those pics and go "Wow, isn't the Universe cool," and then say the moon landing pictures are fake?

It's very strange & also notice that Marla never commented on those pictures
but was the one who brought the conversation up?

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Marla is forgiven

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Reply #261 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:52am

.Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 12:04pm:

Marla might like to know that some years ago a police survey in South Australia listed driving offenders as ..

1. The worst were drink-drivers.

2. The second worst were just ordinary people with no substances in their blood.

3. And the best of the three were drivers with marijuana's THC in their blood. Grin

Nowadays I don't drink and drive, nor do I drive whilst under the influence of Pot.
BUT in my younger days, well I did it all, and one thing I know,

I was a better driver when stoned, than I was straight. I was much more 'aware', and had quick reflexes.
I didn't drink drive then, altho when even younger, I did. I escaped with no harm from that, but realised it was trouble waiting to happen. Not a good idea at all.

I agree with your post. I remember hearing similar yrs ago. ie stoned drivers were better than drunk or straight. That was before meth or coke got a grip on people, but I'm sure still holds true..

I never drive under the influence of anything these days.. it isn't smart.

Especially when you can be drug-tested. It concerns me that the current tests for Pot done by Police don't reflect the reality.

A person can have measurable THC in their system, but NOT be under the influence while driving.
Because that IS the reason for the testing, isn't it? To catch people driving impaired.

I wonder what would occur if Police had to 'prove' that a positive result for Pot actually meant the driver was under the influence and driving impaired.

If it hasn't happened yet.. I expect a challenge to being called a drug driver, soon

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: I'm High Reply #262 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 4:46am Emma wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:52am: I was a better driver when stoned, than I was straight. I was much more 'aware', and had quick reflexes. Quick reflexes? Who was judging you?
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Reply #263 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 5:40am

Emma wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:52am:

Nowadays I don't drink and drive, nor do I drive whilst under the influence of Pot.
BUT in my younger days, well I did it all, and one thing I know,

I was a better driver when stoned, than I was straight. I was much more 'aware',

I've left out the "quick reflexes" ... but yes, that's what the article in the Sydney Morning Herald says: Precisely because you KNOW you've smoked some dope - you drive with greater caution to avoid accidents or being pulled over by a traffic cop for some minor infringement that will have him suspecting you're stoned.

The article goes on to say that the ratio of substance abuse in people involved in car accidents nowadays is a staggering 30 to 1 hard drugs to alcohol in the system. That's a hell of a statistic.

And what's going on out there on the country roads is downright terrifying --

Speed is the #1 killer ... and then drugs, usually Ice. It's a battle ground. A war zone. I used to be terrified every time my brother took me down to Sanctuary Point where he had moved to after his divorce.

The trucks would tail-gate us at high speed ... angry bogans full of illicit drugs in their systems to keep them awake for the trip down to Melbourne and back. It was Mad Max all the way to Sanctuary Point and back. Lunatics on the roads.

The 'aggressive-driving' on those narrow coastal roads would have been a Heaven for Aquascoot -- all Alpha-males jostling for pole position.

Ice is cheap and easily available - and needless to say, our lawmakers and politicians are terrified of upsetting the boys back in UN Headquarters if they should ramp up the penalties enough to seriously give cause for the traffickers and dealers to consider another line of employment.

And so the sellers believe the risks are worth the financial rewards. Out of jail in 3 years with Good Behaviour. Trust to your commonsense - there IS no War on Drugs.

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Reply #264 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:41pm

mantra wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 4:46am:

Emma wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:52am:

I was a better driver when stoned, than I was straight. I was much more 'aware', and had quick reflexes.

Quick reflexes? Who was judging you?

The fact that I never got into a vehicular accident , despite encountering same really bad drivers, (ever driven in QLD? ) , and never been booked for any offenses relative to substance abuse, speaks for itself.

In my entire driving life i"ve only had three low-range speeding tickets. That's 40 years people.

OH OH don't want to jinx myself. Wink

That's 40 yrs so far.!!

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Reply #265 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:58pm

Emma wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 12:31am:

ian wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 11:35pm:

Emma wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 10:27pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 3:44am:

ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 1:55am:

We only get the best from new Zealand, all the intellectuals.

Rusty Calley was considered 'mentally insufficient'... where do we draw the line?

We get all the 'Islander' crims.... and a few like my ex bro-in-law (I showed him that on a strange course, you could make par on the first two holes, something he'd never done before)...who actually contribute.

He's a major industrialist today in WA.

Stop smoking that sh!t. There are better ways to be someone.

Memories abound when I hear this song.

I bet they do.

I can understand you're curious Ian, so I'll tell you the memories. And they aren't what you'd choose to believe. Or remember.

Around 25 yrs ago ..we got married and moved far away.
Time passes. About 3 yrs.
A very dear friend of my husband, and mine, to a lesser extent, at that time, came to stay with us. He was an Aussie.

We were building our first home together, and this friend was a plasterer by trade, and he put in some real good work on our ceilings while he stayed. He was obviously upset about what was happening back down there, and eventually it came out.

His missus had done the dirty on him with another fella, and he felt estranged from their new baby. (We'd known her as his girlfriend) He loved that song.

This other fella had knocked over his Harley, and kicked his dog, as well, and taunted him. Much as we tried to keep him calm and safe, he couldn't stay away.
After about three weeks, he hopped a bus back. ( I begged him please don't do anything stupid.!!) He just sort of shrugged and smiled as the bus pulled away.

Next we heard.. he had taken a weapon, a shotgun I think, and went to where his missus was staying. The other fella wasn't there.

He fought with his missus, and when another person living there intervened, he killed him. He then left the house, with the Police closing on his heels, went to a nearby park and blew his own head off . Cry

At least he had the guts to kill himself. Mind you, its easier with a gun. But no, i wasnt really curious at all.

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Reply #266 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:59pm

Emma wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:41pm:

mantra wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 4:46am:

Emma wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:52am:

I was a better driver when stoned, than I was straight. I was much more 'aware', and had quick reflexes.

Quick reflexes? Who was judging you?

The fact that I never got into a vehicular accident , despite encountering same really bad drivers, (ever driven in QLD? ) , and never been booked for any offenses relative to substance abuse, speaks for itself.

In my entire driving life i"ve only had three low-range speeding tickets. That's 40 years people.

OH OH don't want to jinx myself. Wink

That's 40 yrs so far.!!

you are a crack up.
i wonder if i can data mine this site and get all your posts and make it into a little book.
I'll call it...

"reasons why pot will screw your brain..A Case Study "

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Reply #267 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:15pm

Well thank you..I do try to amuse and inform, you know.

So many people have told me to write a book.. !!

But that's too hard for me now. A few anecdotes and memories spread around about is all I can manage at the present.

It'd take more than one book, and I am not highly motivated Roll Eyes

to re-live it. The old memories are reflected on my posts, and I don't bullshite. Why tell lies?

aquascoot wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:59pm:

"reasons why pot will screw your brain..A Case Study "

I suggest the title should be ..A Case Study: "why Pot won't screw your brains".

I would expect royalties.

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Reply #268 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:34pm

The article goes on to say that the ratio of substance abuse in people involved in car accidents nowadays is a staggering 30 to 1 hard drugs to alcohol in the system. That's a hell of a statistic.

And what's going on out there on the country roads is downright terrifying --

Speed is the #1 killer ... and then drugs, usually Ice. It's a battle ground. A war zone. I used to be terrified every time my brother took me down to Sanctuary Point where he had moved to after his divorce.

The trucks would tail-gate us at high speed ... angry bogans full of illicit drugs in their systems to keep them awake for the trip down to Melbourne and back. It was Mad Max all the way to Sanctuary Point and back. Lunatics on the roads.

The 'aggressive-driving' on those narrow coastal roads would have been a Heaven for Aquascoot -- all Alpha-males jostling for pole position.

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I don't drive the Coast. I drove literally over one hundred thousand miles, inland, in my old Fairlane.

I was visiting my Mum in Vic.

I have certainly experienced those trucker bullies.. the Newell Highway to be avoided as much as possible. Now there is another story or two to tell -

but.. the best thing to do ?? Overtake the fkrs and leave them in your wake... they are too big and dangerous to sit behind.

the ratio of substance abuse in people involved in car accidents nowadays is a staggering 30 to 1 hard drugs to alcohol in the system. That's a hell of a statistic.

What do you mean? 30 drugs to 1 alcohol?

I dont quite get your point, ... you can't lump all drugs together..alcohol is a drug.

What are you saying.?
I can assure you there are no cannabis users terrorising motorists on long hauls. Pot is the antithesis of speed and meth. No comparison. Explain.?

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Reply #269 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:51pm

Emma wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:52am:

.Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 12:04pm:

Marla might like to know that some years ago a police survey in South Australia listed driving offenders as ..

1. The worst were drink-drivers.

2. The second worst were just ordinary people with no substances in their blood.

3. And the best of the three were drivers with marijuana's THC in their blood. Grin

Nowadays I don't drink and drive, nor do I drive whilst under the influence of Pot.
BUT in my younger days, well I did it all, and one thing I know,

I was a better driver when stoned, than I was straight. I was much more 'aware', and had quick reflexes.
I didn't drink drive then, altho when even younger, I did. I escaped with no harm from that, but realised it was trouble waiting to happen. Not a good idea at all.

I agree with your post. I remember hearing similar yrs ago. ie stoned drivers were better than drunk or straight. That was before meth or coke got a grip on people, but I'm sure still holds true..

I never drive under the influence of anything these days.. it isn't smart.

Especially when you can be drug-tested. It concerns me that the current tests for Pot done by Police don't reflect the reality.

A person can have measurable THC in their system, but NOT be under the influence while driving.
Because that IS the reason for the testing, isn't it? To catch people driving impaired.

I wonder what would occur if Police had to 'prove' that a positive result for Pot actually meant the driver was under the influence and driving impaired.

If it hasn't happened yet.. I expect a challenge to being called a drug driver, soon

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No.

It's basically an attack on cannabis users and truck-drivers, brought
to you by the fox-ticks whose latest 'hit' is the terminally-ridiculous
and reality-challenged 'Stoner Sloth' ad.

It has NOTHING to do with road safety per se.

If it did, they'd be testing for things like Endone, OxyContin, Valium
speed etc, and cannabis wouldn't even be on the list.

And, without a 'legal limit' and with cannabis 'showing up' LONG after
the effects have well-and-truly worn-off, I consider the law to be not
only flawed, but deliberately flawed.

To lose your licence because you smoked a joint the previous day is
neither fair nor just nor right.

I too look forward to having this utterly unacceptable state of affairs
challenged (and hopefully beaten)

And please, no-one need bother coming back with the 'it's illegal, there
should be a 0.00 limit' crap either - that's utter bullsh1t.

(Cue a slew of stupid and/or abusive comments from the Right, no doubt)...

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