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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: The arch betrayal of the Libs to the people of Aus Reply #15 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 12:59pm No Swagman but I am about to write to him and ask him not to rack his cue just yet. Politics is a funny game as Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard will testify to
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Reply #16 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 1:09pm

red baron wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 12:59pm:

No Swagman but I am about to write to him and ask him not to rack his cue just yet.

Politics is a funny game as Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard will testify to Wink

Can you also add....not to:

hang up the boots, roll over, bend over, burn his bridges, bury the hatchet, call it a day, cash it in.....etc etc etc etc.........??

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Reply #17 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 1:24pm

red baron wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Like Gillard before him he achieved his lofty post like a thief in the night, putting the knife straight between Tony Abbott's shoulders.

He achieved his post in the normal way: there was a party vote, and he won.

The electorate chooses the party they want to govern the country, and the party chooses their leader (who, if in the governing party, becomes Prime Minister).

Parties can change their leaders at any time.

Why do so many people in this forum struggle with these simple facts?

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Reply #18 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 1:27pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 6:35pm:

Wow, this has to be one of the most delusional threads I have ever read. Tony delivered? The whole reason he lost all his political capital was because he failed to deliver what he promised.

Indeed.

He is a total failure. Pure and simple.

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Reply #19 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 1:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 1:24pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Like Gillard before him he achieved his lofty post like a thief in the night, putting the knife straight between Tony Abbott's shoulders.

He achieved his post in the normal way: there was a party vote, and he won.

The electorate chooses the party they want to govern the country, and the party chooses their leader (who, if in the governing party, becomes Prime Minister).

Parties can change their leaders at any time.

Why do so many people in this forum struggle with these simple facts?

Basically because they vote as though they have a say. The vote for the local member because they are of that party AND knowing it will get the leader into the PM position, in some people's minds the local vote is a vote for the PM.

Effectively they attempting to use the election system for something it wasn't supposed to do.

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Reply #20 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 1:49pm

Kytro wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 1:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 1:24pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Like Gillard before him he achieved his lofty post like a thief in the night, putting the knife straight between Tony Abbott's shoulders.

He achieved his post in the normal way: there was a party vote, and he won.

The electorate chooses the party they want to govern the country, and the party chooses their leader (who, if in the governing party, becomes Prime Minister).

Parties can change their leaders at any time.

Why do so many people in this forum struggle with these simple facts?

Effectively they're attempting to use the election system for something it wasn't supposed to do.

Exactly.

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Reply #21 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:08pm

Tony Abbott was not a total failure; he was a victim of a concentrated and vindictive campaign to pull him down by the Turnbull Camp.

It is hard to remember your original intention was to drain the swamp when you are up to your arse in alligators.

Since Turnbull took over, this Country has lurched to the left. Why bother considering voting in Labor next time? They already have a Labor Prime Minister by any other name, sitting there right now.

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Reply #22 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:15pm

red baron wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:08pm:

Tony Abbott was not a total failure; he was a victim of a concentrated and vindictive campaign to pull him down by the Turnbull Camp.

It is hard to remember your original intention was to drain the swamp when you are up to your arse in alligators.

Since Turnbull took over, this Country has lurched to the left. Why bother considering voting in Labor next time? They already have a Labor Prime Minister by any other name, sitting there right now.

Agh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sheer torture!!!!!!!!!!!

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139530 Gender:	Re: The arch betrayal of the Libs to the people of Aus Reply #23 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:18pm red baron wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:08pm: Tony Abbott was not a total failure And Bill Clinton never had sexual relations with that woman. red baron wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:08pm: this Country has lurched to the left. Thank goodness!
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Reply #24 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:32pm

Thanks Aussie, I'll try very, very hard not to repeat myself.

Oh...by the by...here are a few samples from our resident Uberologist the inimitable Aussie:

Just checked my Uber app for the Sunshine Coast. 'No cars available.'

What you 'feel' is the vibration of the knocking on your front door. Some men in white coats want to see you.

I am not in NSW.

Just how stupid do you really believe I am?

No. There is no need for you to know

Another Uber bottom rung dweller.

If you can't bare to face facts which do not line up with your agenda, there is little point in having a discussion with you

cods, there are plenty of Uber nasty stories, just like this one:

I tells ya....it will all end in tears! No doubt about it.

Try Black & White Cabs in Brisbane.....and would you like fries with that?

Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:07pm
Further...on that point that you have insurance. Your premiums are likely to rise if Uber gets a real hold as there will then be a greater risk as more uninsured cars will be on the road and likely to damage your property.

Yet, Uber is facing many legal hurdles and driver revolts there. Do not get sucked in by the spin.

What's that saying about GLASS HOUSES and people living IN THEM AUSSIE? Wink

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Reply #25 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:35pm

red baron wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:32pm:

Thanks Aussie, I'll try very, very hard not to repeat myself.

Oh...by the by...here are a few samples from our resident Uberologist the inimitable Aussie:

Just checked my Uber app for the Sunshine Coast. 'No cars available.'

What you 'feel' is the vibration of the knocking on your front door. Some men in white coats want to see you.

I am not in NSW.

Just how stupid do you really believe I am?

No. There is no need for you to know

Another Uber bottom rung dweller.

If you can't bare to face facts which do not line up with your agenda, there is little point in having a discussion with you

cods, there are plenty of Uber nasty stories, just like this one:

I tells ya....it will all end in tears! No doubt about it.

Try Black & White Cabs in Brisbane.....and would you like fries with that?

Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:07pm
Further...on that point that you have insurance. Your premiums are likely to rise if Uber gets a real hold as there will then be a greater risk as more uninsured cars will be on the road and likely to damage your property.

Yet, Uber is facing many legal hurdles and driver revolts there. Do not get sucked in by the spin.

What's that saying about GLASS HOUSES and people living IN THEM AUSSIE? Wink

Yeas...those are my posts. Where is the anguished and tortured use of cliche upon cliche?

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: The arch betrayal of the Libs to the people of Aus Reply #26 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:53pm You don't see a cliché there Aus...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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Reply #27 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:59pm

cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 6:06pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 5:35pm:

It was abbott that said we should take 12000 Syrians, wasn’t it?

you do lnow he stopped another 50.000 coming in illegally through our back door dont you???>.

at least these 12000 will come in via the proper channels and not thanks to people smugglers..

and its out take of refugees anyway only this time they have said from Syria....and not Sri Lan ka.. Roll Eyes

we are obliged to take so many per year...because of the UN charter..

why are you so suddenly irate???

doesnt make sense..

Didn't stop a single one flying on on a visa and over-staying etc.... there's the big number....

Bon Soir! I am Inspecteur Cliche` of ze Word Police, Zection Deuxieme - and I must issue to you all notice to refrain from ze use of copied posts from ze newspapers! Zat is a cliche`!"

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38856 Gender:	Re: The arch betrayal of the Libs to the people of Aus Reply #28 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 3:11pm red baron wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 2:53pm: You don't see a cliché there Aus...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Yeas, there are some...............but I do not abuse their use or torture the reader with them.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: The arch betrayal of the Libs to the people of Aus Reply #29 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 3:50pm Yes sure Aussie...of course you don't
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