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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: ABC - do they never learn? Reply #15 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:22am If the ABC was actually left wing, they wouldn't have programs like The Business and Landline, and would have more cover of social issues like unemployment and homelessness.
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Re: ABC - do they never learn?
Reply #16 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:23am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:50am:

The ABC are the public servant option for failed journalists.

Private sector media, murdoch , for instance are movers , shakers and hold the real power.

Those journos who arent good enough to be snapped up to play at the elite level end up in the ABC..

That's strange. When I was at journalism school EVERYONE wanted to work for the ABC. It was considered a primo appointment, and quite unachievable. The selection process is intense.

Most went on to News Ltd and Fairfax. They weren't easy to get into either.

You know K, its illegal to clone a horse in australia. someone cloned a quarterhorse stallion in the states and it was sent back when it arrived here because we appreciate "biodiversity"

where is the "biodiversity" in the leftard journalistic ranks.

the ABC are definitely running a cloning operation.

it doesnt matter if you accidently turn on news radio or radio national in the car or the TV remote gets stuck on 2 when you are trying to get to Ice Road Truckers.

they all sing from exactly the same hymn sheet.

name 1 permanent ABC journo who talks like Jones or Bolt.

They don't. That's the point. Jones and Bolt are party propagandists.

Almost all the big Australian talent starts at the ABC. Journalists, comedians, actors. The ABC is the talent pool for the other networks, breakfast radio and current affairs TV, and it's always been this way.

Without the training and exposure provided by the ABC, we wouldn't have the (highly exported) skills in Australia that we do.

Ray Martin, Russell Crowe, Baz Lurman, and even Alan Jones. All have made this point.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: ABC - do they never learn? Reply #17 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:25am Google executive Michelle Guthrie has been named the ABC's new managing director
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: ABC - do they never learn? Reply #18 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:49am John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:25am: Google executive Michelle Guthrie has been named the ABC's new managing director http://www.afr.com/content/dam/images/g/l/n/m/b/8/image.related.afrArticleLead.6... Works for Google and has nothing to do with their finances or tax, she just said on ABC 24
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Re: ABC - do they never learn?
Reply #19 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:56am

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

So why is the "peoples" broadcaster disenfranchising so many many citizens

it's not .... it's only disenfranchising the extreme rightards who consider any opinion other than their own a 'leftist' view.

What other broadcaster gives a voice to extremist jihadists. Our ABC.

I note that the 'extreme jihadist' said he'd been wrong to do what he did...... meaning his 'extreme' approach no longer applied...

Are you suggesting that all points of view should not be held up to public scrutiny by being allowed to be aired publicly? The reaction of Majority Oz to that guy showed clearly that they rejected any concept of any 'extreme' view.

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Reply #20 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:59am

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:25am:

Google executive Michelle Guthrie has been named the ABC's new managing director

http://www.afr.com/content/dam/images/g/l/n/m/b/8/image.related.afrArticleLead.6...

Whether she's good or bad at the job - and I wait on results while maintaining that most 'ceo's are a waste of time and money and none is worth $10.1m annually - I note that the 'right' has already tried to influence the direction she might take.

I find that reprehensible...

"One guarantee of a free society is the free exchange of views" - JFK.... maybe not the exact quote, but close....

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Re: ABC - do they never learn?
Reply #21 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 10:09am

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:50am:

The ABC are the public servant option for failed journalists.

Private sector media, murdoch , for instance are movers , shakers and hold the real power.

Those journos who arent good enough to be snapped up to play at the elite level end up in the ABC..

That's strange. When I was at journalism school EVERYONE wanted to work for the ABC. It was considered a primo appointment, and quite unachievable. The selection process is intense.

Most went on to News Ltd and Fairfax. They weren't easy to get into either.

You know K, its illegal to clone a horse in australia. someone cloned a quarterhorse stallion in the states and it was sent back when it arrived here because we appreciate "biodiversity"

where is the "biodiversity" in the leftard journalistic ranks.

the ABC are definitely running a cloning operation.

it doesnt matter if you accidently turn on news radio or radio national in the car or the TV remote gets stuck on 2 when you are trying to get to Ice Road Truckers.

they all sing from exactly the same hymn sheet.

name 1 permanent ABC journo who talks like Jones or Bolt.

They don't. That's the point. Jones and Bolt are party propagandists.

Almost all the big Australian talent starts at the ABC. Journalists, comedians, actors. The ABC is the talent pool for the other networks, breakfast radio and current affairs TV, and it's always been this way.

Without the training and exposure provided by the ABC, we wouldn't have the (highly exported) skills in Australia that we do.

Ray Martin, Russell Crowe, Baz Lurman, and even Alan Jones. All have made this point.

Exactly K, the journos who are focused on the rightard ideas of growth and personal development, leave and continue their aspirations in the private sector.

the chodes who see their comrades in the private sector become bitter and envious.

As nietshze said....

acknowledge your envy and use it as a driving force to try to move forward.

There is no reason the long term ABC journo's cannot aspire to the wonderful world of free enterprise.
They can overcome their success barriers, as othes have.

If Ray can do it, i can do it.
This would be a good affirmation for leigh Sales to put on her bathroom mirror.
She always looks like she's just sucked on a lemon Wink

.
make lemonade Liegh Wink

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Re: ABC - do they never learn?
Reply #22 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 10:14am

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

So why is the "peoples" broadcaster disenfranchising so many many citizens

it's not .... it's only disenfranchising the extreme rightards who consider any opinion other than their own a 'leftist' view.

What other broadcaster gives a voice to extremist jihadists. Our ABC.

a truly unbiased broadcaster would only let people we agree with speak, right? Cheesy

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: ABC - do they never learn? Reply #23 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 10:15am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:59am: I note that the 'right' has already tried to influence the direction she might take. that was the whole point of Abetz rant .....
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Re: ABC - do they never learn?
Reply #24 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:04am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 10:09am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:50am:

The ABC are the public servant option for failed journalists.

Private sector media, murdoch , for instance are movers , shakers and hold the real power.

Those journos who arent good enough to be snapped up to play at the elite level end up in the ABC..

That's strange. When I was at journalism school EVERYONE wanted to work for the ABC. It was considered a primo appointment, and quite unachievable. The selection process is intense.

Most went on to News Ltd and Fairfax. They weren't easy to get into either.

You know K, its illegal to clone a horse in australia. someone cloned a quarterhorse stallion in the states and it was sent back when it arrived here because we appreciate "biodiversity"

where is the "biodiversity" in the leftard journalistic ranks.

the ABC are definitely running a cloning operation.

it doesnt matter if you accidently turn on news radio or radio national in the car or the TV remote gets stuck on 2 when you are trying to get to Ice Road Truckers.

they all sing from exactly the same hymn sheet.

name 1 permanent ABC journo who talks like Jones or Bolt.

They don't. That's the point. Jones and Bolt are party propagandists.

Almost all the big Australian talent starts at the ABC. Journalists, comedians, actors. The ABC is the talent pool for the other networks, breakfast radio and current affairs TV, and it's always been this way.

Without the training and exposure provided by the ABC, we wouldn't have the (highly exported) skills in Australia that we do.

Ray Martin, Russell Crowe, Baz Lurman, and even Alan Jones. All have made this point.

Exactly K, the journos who are focused on the rightard ideas of growth and personal development, leave and continue their aspirations in the private sector.

the chodes who see their comrades in the private sector become bitter and envious.

As nietshze said....

acknowledge your envy and use it as a driving force to try to move forward.

There is no reason the long term ABC journo's cannot aspire to the wonderful world of free enterprise.
They can overcome their success barriers, as othes have.

If Ray can do it, i can do it.
This would be a good affirmation for leigh Sales to put on her bathroom mirror.
She always looks like she's just sucked on a lemon Wink

.
make lemonade Liegh Wink

Nietzsche never said that, dear.

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Re: ABC - do they never learn?
Reply #25 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:09am

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:04am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 10:09am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:57am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:50am:

The ABC are the public servant option for failed journalists.

Private sector media, murdoch , for instance are movers , shakers and hold the real power.

Those journos who arent good enough to be snapped up to play at the elite level end up in the ABC..

That's strange. When I was at journalism school EVERYONE wanted to work for the ABC. It was considered a primo appointment, and quite unachievable. The selection process is intense.

Most went on to News Ltd and Fairfax. They weren't easy to get into either.

You know K, its illegal to clone a horse in australia. someone cloned a quarterhorse stallion in the states and it was sent back when it arrived here because we appreciate "biodiversity"

where is the "biodiversity" in the leftard journalistic ranks.

the ABC are definitely running a cloning operation.

it doesnt matter if you accidently turn on news radio or radio national in the car or the TV remote gets stuck on 2 when you are trying to get to Ice Road Truckers.

they all sing from exactly the same hymn sheet.

name 1 permanent ABC journo who talks like Jones or Bolt.

They don't. That's the point. Jones and Bolt are party propagandists.

Almost all the big Australian talent starts at the ABC. Journalists, comedians, actors. The ABC is the talent pool for the other networks, breakfast radio and current affairs TV, and it's always been this way.

Without the training and exposure provided by the ABC, we wouldn't have the (highly exported) skills in Australia that we do.

Ray Martin, Russell Crowe, Baz Lurman, and even Alan Jones. All have made this point.

Exactly K, the journos who are focused on the rightard ideas of growth and personal development, leave and continue their aspirations in the private sector.

the chodes who see their comrades in the private sector become bitter and envious.

As nietshze said....

acknowledge your envy and use it as a driving force to try to move forward.

There is no reason the long term ABC journo's cannot aspire to the wonderful world of free enterprise.
They can overcome their success barriers, as othes have.

If Ray can do it, i can do it.
This would be a good affirmation for leigh Sales to put on her bathroom mirror.
She always looks like she's just sucked on a lemon Wink

.
make lemonade Liegh Wink

Nietzsche never said that, dear.

didnt nietzche tell us to acknowledge envy and use it as a driving force to competition ?
(i like nietzche as he went insane after seeing a horse get beaten )

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the good ole boys Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 658 Gender:	Re: ABC - do they never learn? Reply #26 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:12am If John Smith and Karnal Knowledge are on a topic defending it you know it's left wing.
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Re: ABC - do they never learn?
Reply #27 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:18am

Poor old Eric once a fool always a fool.

The previous head of the ABC Mark Scott was a liberal party employee who was appointed by John Howard.

The problem is the Liberals have a with us or against us attitude they truly believe that the middle balanced view is against them.

They are mostly right, they do stack up poorly against a balanced position.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59248 Here Gender:	Re: ABC - do they never learn? Reply #28 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:20am the good ole boys wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:12am: If John Smith and Karnal Knowledge are on a topic defending it you know it's left wing. But also if it is something that Eric Abetz has said it is safe to assume that it is wrong.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: ABC - do they never learn? Reply #29 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:22am the good ole boys wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:12am: If John Smith and Karnal Knowledge are on a topic defending it you know it's left wing. Can you explain what "LEFT WING" means? (your interpretation not googles)
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