John Smith wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:21am:


Corporate world isn't that difficult.
You just need to be able to move quick and ensure the right people see what you do.

Kytro wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:41am:


That is not the point kyrto.
the point is that the market is  "reality"

soil, rain, seed ....this is the farmers reality.

would it do any good to curse the soil, curse the rain, curse the seed.

Thats all you've got!!.

Dont curse all you've got.

the miracle has been set up for you.

all you need to do is be active and plant the seed.
imagine if you had to work out how to produce a piece of corn.
that would keep you up late at night.
but you dont.
you just have to plant the seed.

and the market is the same.

you just have to be an active participant .
dont curse it.

this stuff is too easy
getting rich is too easy.
you live in australia.
you  dont have to change countries !!

John Smith wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:53am:



Based on what I see here.... no.  But seriously. did you not miss the OTHER qualities?

Kytro wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 10:20am:


If the company you invested in hired a CEO on $10M a year but brought in an additional $1B in profits would you be pleased or not?

We both know the answer to that.

Kytro wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 10:36am:


Not the point. Plus it only talks about the poor performers and not the good ones. it is all about WORTH.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:56am:


Pretty much, one of my best friends in 2-3 years moved very quickly up the corporate ladder from starting at the bottom not because of his ability (he even admits this), but because he made friends with the right people and went to the right coke and hooker parties (srsly these things actually exist outside movies).

Nomenklatura is very alive outside of Stalinist countries and it exists largely within corporate structures.

It's why I argue that Cooperative form of corporate structure is likely to be much more viable because those at the top actually have to preform based on skill and the information flow through the company structure is much more flat which allows better decisions to be made.

How many companies have you all be a part of where the management and top just don't have a smacking clue and ignore the workers experiences? This simply is not an issue in Cooperatives.

Right wingers should support Cooperatives as well if they actually believe in decentralization, individualism and democracy. Why should corporate structures be basically little bureaucratic fiefdoms?

Maqqa wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 11:59am:


Do you mean KPI's or are we talking Asian food or possibly about fish ?

mariacostel wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 11:03am:


That's exactly the point though. Paying more does not provide better results. So as a shareholder I would be annoyed with money being wasted on underperformers on the premise that they are worth that much.

There is too much cronyism in corporate culture, where boards have members and CEO based on connection, not proven ability. How do CEOs continue to get jobs when they preside over the decline of organisations greater than the industry norm at the time.

People think corporations act rationally, but they don't