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Reply #45 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 3:36pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 10:05am:
Is english not your first language?


I said they have vastly more responsibility , I did NOT say they did 50 times the work of their employees you fool.


Fkkk, your stupidity is boundless.


Id say by your inability to comprehend basic english you're pretty much unemployable you dolt.



yeah yeah ...you're a genius ... pity you haven't a clue about the real world.

Tell me dopey, when a CEO loses the company millions and gets a bonus pay, is that because of his responsibilities too? or is it because he decides the boards pay and the board decides his pay? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Most corporate pay has nothing whatsoever to do with the CEO's responsibility, abilities or the amount of work they can do. It's all about board room politics. You approve my pay, I approve yours. Meanwhile screw the staff and the shareholders. Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #46 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 3:37pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 9:56am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 9:21am:
... wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 9:12am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 8:53am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 6:24am:
Could it be multiple degrees, hard work, risk, additional study and... ability?



you must be seriously deluded. You think others don't work hard?


I'm sure many deadbeats work hard, they just don't work smart.  If one works very hard upfront and sets themself up, they can avoid breaking their back at the foundry at minimum wage for the rest of their lives.



Not everyone is cut out for the corporate world. That doesn't mean the work they do is any less valuable. Don't forget, most of these CEO's don't actually do the real work, they delegate the work to subordinates and make the choices from options presented to them, then take the credit or blame when things work out or don't.


Corporate world isn't that difficult.
You just need to be able to move quick and ensure the right people see what you do.


neither is driving a car but not everyone should be allowed to drive. Your point?
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Re: Paid 50 Times The Average Workers Salary
Reply #47 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 3:38pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 10:19am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 8:53am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 6:24am:
Could it be multiple degrees, hard work, risk, additional study and... ability?



you must be seriously deluded. You think others don't work hard?



Based on what I see here.... no.  But seriously. did you not miss the OTHER qualities?

so everyone that works hard, studies, has a couple of degrees and takes some risk is a ceo?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #48 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:01pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 3:36pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 10:05am:
Is english not your first language?


I said they have vastly more responsibility , I did NOT say they did 50 times the work of their employees you fool.


Fkkk, your stupidity is boundless.


Id say by your inability to comprehend basic english you're pretty much unemployable you dolt.



yeah yeah ...you're a genius ... pity you haven't a clue about the real world.

Tell me dopey, when a CEO loses the company millions and gets a bonus pay, is that because of his responsibilities too? or is it because he decides the boards pay and the board decides his pay? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Most corporate pay has nothing whatsoever to do with the CEO's responsibility, abilities or the amount of work they can do. It's all about board room politics. You approve my pay, I approve yours. Meanwhile screw the staff and the shareholders. Cheesy Cheesy




Well someone took a big leap into moronville to come to a conclusion to even on the vast horizon.

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Reply #49 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 3:38pm:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 10:19am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 8:53am:
mariacostel wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 6:24am:
Could it be multiple degrees, hard work, risk, additional study and... ability?



you must be seriously deluded. You think others don't work hard?



Based on what I see here.... no.  But seriously. did you not miss the OTHER qualities?

so everyone that works hard, studies, has a couple of degrees and takes some risk is a ceo?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



You are greens-win / pansi / bobby level of stupid aren't you?


This is a level of comprehension expected from primary school children in QLD, why does it confound you so?


All CEOs work hard and have degrees, not all people who have degrees and work hard are CEOs you dolt!




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Reply #50 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:11pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:06pm:
You are greens-win / pansi / bobby level of stupid aren't you?

no? why? are you looking for a new goal to work up to?


This is a level of comprehension expected from primary school children in QLD, why does it confound you so?

who says it confounds me? ... Maria made the comment not me, I'm seeking clarification


All CEOs work hard and have degrees,

Grin Grin Grin Grin yeah ... and santa is really going to come down your chimney


not all people who have degrees and work hard are CEOs you dolt!

so you agree, it's not about hard work, multiple degrees, ability etc?





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Reply #51 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:12pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:01pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 3:36pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 10:05am:
Is english not your first language?


I said they have vastly more responsibility , I did NOT say they did 50 times the work of their employees you fool.


Fkkk, your stupidity is boundless.


Id say by your inability to comprehend basic english you're pretty much unemployable you dolt.



yeah yeah ...you're a genius ... pity you haven't a clue about the real world.

Tell me dopey, when a CEO loses the company millions and gets a bonus pay, is that because of his responsibilities too? or is it because he decides the boards pay and the board decides his pay? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Most corporate pay has nothing whatsoever to do with the CEO's responsibility, abilities or the amount of work they can do. It's all about board room politics. You approve my pay, I approve yours. Meanwhile screw the staff and the shareholders. Cheesy Cheesy




Well someone took a big leap into moronville to come to a conclusion to even on the vast horizon.



sorry, I don't speak more on ... can you possibly translate that so that it makes sense?
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Reply #52 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:20pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 24th, 2015 at 6:43am:
can a man be worth 50 x what another man is worth....??


Of Course , if he is 50 x more valuable.

the wage scale is a ladder
its not a bed...go have a lie down


There would be very few people in this world that could not be easily replaced, right up to the top. In fact they are all the time. People retire and die, this proves the previous.
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Reply #53 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 6:04pm
 
Even the best CEO's would not be worth 50X the average.

It has gone way too far, we hear talk about the pendulum swinging too far in one direction - this is what it actually means.

Good CEO's should be very well paid but 50 X is ridiculous.
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Reply #54 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 6:34pm
 
Australia’s CEOs earn more than they admit   Sad
Sep 3, 2015

The New Daily


We knew CEOs can earn tens of millions a year. But it turns out some are earning even more than they let on.   


BHP Billiton boss Andrew Mackenzie earned twice as much as reported.

The 10 highest-paid CEOs of Australia’s biggest 100 companies collectively earned a massive $171 million in 2014.

That’s equivalent to the combined earnings of 2137 Australians on the average income of $80,000. But you wouldn’t get that figure by reading the companies’ annual reports.   Sad

• Hospital CEO’s $30m pay cheque ‘appalling’
• Myer’s profits take a massive hit
• Woolworths profits takes a battering
• 7-eleven has been ‘underpaying wages for years’

According to research by Australian Council of Superannuation Investors, many ASX-listed companies under-report the amount they pay their CEOs.   Sad

Based on the companies’ own statutory reporting, the top 10 CEOs’ earnings totalled $99.63 million in 2014. But when you include other, less obvious forms of remuneration, ACSI said the total value of remuneration jumped to $171.4 million. (And only one was a woman, and she has since been replaced by a man.)


Some of our CEOs can afford even more of these chaps than we thought.

Taking into account these additional elements, the highest-paid Australian chief executive in 2014 was Ramsay Health Care’s Chris Rex, who ACSI said earned a staggering $30.8 million.

That was more than three times the figure reported – $9.1 million.

Number two on the list were brothers Peter and Steven Lowy, joint CEOs of Westfield and son of the shopping centre chain’s chair Frank Lowy. Together they took home $24.5 million, which was $2 million more than reported.

The top 10 companies included health care, banks, mining companies, insurance companies and real estate firms.

One of the worst under-reporters was SEEK, whose CEO Andrew Bassat earned more than four times as much as the reported figure of $4.2 million.

James Hardie’s CEO earned almost twice as much as reported – $20.8 million – while Colin Goldschmidt of Sonic Healthcare earned $13.4 million, not the $3.8 million reported.

“These figures suggest that the existing requirements for reporting executive pay may significantly understate the rewards received in a given year. Statutory reporting is, perhaps, disclosing only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the wealth accruing to senior executives,” said ACSI chief executive Louise Davidson.

Click the owl to see the former Telstra CEO’s views on his extreme pay: “indefensible”

“While the packaging and disclosure of CEO pay has undoubtedly become more disciplined in recent years, thanks to legislation like ‘two strikes’ and termination pay – as well as challenging scrutiny from ACSI and others – company investors and owners cannot afford to lose sight of the quantum of reward being delivered.”   Sad
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Reply #55 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 7:10pm
 
No surprise that they are dishonest and try to hide their real income.
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Reply #56 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 7:31pm
 
What was it that some people said about the weekend penalty rates again???.    Sad
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Reply #57 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 8:15pm
 
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What was it that some people said about the weekend penalty rates again???.    Sad


The reality is that it is these guys earning 50X that are driving the penalty rates debate and spend a very significant amount of their effort ensuring that employee wages are kept as low as possible.
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Reply #58 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 8:16pm
 
Must be the politics of envy when the lowest paid gets penalty rates....

If these guys earn less, they pay less tax (both direct and indirect taxes).
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Reply #59 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 8:17pm
 
They might also be pushed under the threshold in which they then receive government assistance...
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