You can use it for whatever you want Karnal. Not even the socialists demand that it's goal is an equal contribution from everyone and an equal share of the wealth for everyone.

Should real socialists be able to afford computers/laptops/tablets/smart phones with wizz bang internet connections and be able to lounge around in chat rooms all day? Shouldn't you be out distributing bread and singing the 5th nationale?

It's OK to feel embarrassed about it Karnal.

Gandalf has gone from socialist to Greens supporter to well actually I like the existing arrangements, while you are staring at your navel mumbling that you don't know the answer.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:28am:



Whereas the lazy and profligate, believe that what the rich have, should at every turn, be transferred into their hands [for consuming].


Dictionary;
profligate = = recklessly extravagant or wasteful.       licentious; dissolute.




My own opinion is that;

Taking the property or wealth, that was created by another person, without their consent and full agreement, is still a crime.

It is called stealing.

And even when a government [of men] makes the claim that such [actual] theft is being done in a noble cause, such an act, is still stealing     [...i.e. confiscating other peoples property/wealth].


IMO, those who have lawfully created wealth [for themselves] and have the means [the excess] to do so, should be encouraged to help their fellow men,         ....but imo, it should remain the firm right [in law], of the person who created that wealth, to decide how and when he/she chooses to disperse that wealth [if they so choose to do].




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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
- Winston Churchill


"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
- Margaret Thatcher



If you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it.
- Ronald Reagan



'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.'
- Ronald Reagan



'The taxpayer:
That's someone who works
For the federal government
But doesn't have to take the
Civil service examination.'
- Ronald Reagan



'Government is like a baby:
An alimentary canal with a
Big appetite at one end and
No sense of responsibility
At the other'
- Ronald Reagan



"Socialism only works
In two places:
Heaven where they don't
Need it and hell where they already have it."
-Ronald Reagan



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Not related to the subject matter, but a damn fine quote!         

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'Here's my strategy on
The Cold War:
We win, they lose.'
- Ronald Reagan

Yes Karnal, you are free to think before you post.

Karnal and Gandalf normally have a lot to say about economics and capitalism. They remind me of undergraduate socialists who rant against the system but when you ask them what their alternative is you get a blank stare.