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10 Things America Must Do To Defend Itself From Ji
Jan 1^st, 2016 at 2:05am

The Glazov Gang-10 Things America Must Do To Defend Itself From Jihad

13m 23s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNyPzvJjfCY

What is discussed in this YT.....

Defining the problem, which the citizens of every Western nation face    [....re ISLAM, and the presence of moslems amongst us].

1/ Our palpable inability,    ......as the citizens of Western nations, to demand that our own political elite confront and acknowledge the [actual and undeniable] truth [about what ISLAM actually is],          .....and their [our political elite's] continual rejection, of the need for them [in their position of employment, as our servants, who are entrusted with our welfare], to start to communicate in all of their public statements, the truth, about about the real [but always denied] intent of ISLAM and the real [but always denied] malevolent intent of every self-declared member of the moslem community, towards every local non-moslem.

2/ And the need [for us, and our political elite] to confront and acknowledge the [actual and undeniable truth,    ......that Sharia law [and everything which Sharia law encompasses and 'brings with it'] is a problem in itself,       .....and the need [for us] to openly acknowledge that Sharia law is actually intrinsic to the existence/presence of ISLAM [in any locality],          .....and the fact, that the spread and influence of Sharia law, is an essential and undeniable objective of every person who self-declares as being a follower of ISLAM.

as per, the objective truth, that;

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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13486 Colorado Gender:	Re: 10 Things America Must Do To Defend Itself From Ji Reply #1 - Jan 1^st, 2016 at 4:59am For a seccy there, I thought this was legit. Now seeing it was nothing more than another paranoid, babbling pseudo-Christian hate speech, I want those minutes of my life back.
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Reply #2 - Jan 1^st, 2016 at 11:07am

Marla wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 4:59am:

For a seccy there, I thought this was legit. Now seeing it was nothing more than another paranoid, babbling pseudo-Christian hate speech, I want those minutes of my life back.

Alternatively, if you see that a post is authored by 'Yadda', simply don't bother reading it.

Avert your eyes, .....like a good girl would.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: 10 Things America Must Do To Defend Itself From Ji Reply #3 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:37am Let me guess... 1. ban Islam 2-10 - blah blah blah
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the good ole boys Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 658 Gender:	Re: 10 Things America Must Do To Defend Itself From Ji Reply #4 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:42am Deportation. Even jihadis don't want to live with other Muslims. They'd rather sponge of the kaffir and live a comfortable western life. Anybody busted of having any association with terrorism or terrorist groups is sent back to the home of their ancestors.
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Reply #5 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:37am:

Let me guess...

1. ban Islam
2-10 - blah blah blah

That would be beneficial.

But principally, and firstly, ....WE NEED TO CONVINCE OUR POLITICAL LEADERS TO TELL THE TRUTH, AND TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH, ....about what ISLAM really is, and what ISLAM promotes in the world.

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I know that it can be a difficult concept for many to grasp, .....but i am still promoting the proposition that, .....a person who insists that he is a moslem, ....is, a moslem.

AND AGAIN;
A moslem, is a moslem.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAM = = ?????????

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"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

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"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

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THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

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Reply #6 - Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:23am

Just wondering if you have looked up the number of countries invaded by Moslems Vs the number of countries invaded by the USA since WWII?

” Unfortunately American racism has grossly violated the proposition that “all men are created equal” and the worst form of racism involves invasion of other countries. The US has invaded about 70 countries since its inception and has invaded a total of about 50 countries since 1945 ."

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Reply #7 - Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:28am

Yadda wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:12pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:37am:

Let me guess...

1. ban Islam
2-10 - blah blah blah

That would be beneficial.

But principally, and firstly, ....WE NEED TO CONVINCE OUR POLITICAL LEADERS TO TELL THE TRUTH, AND TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH, ....about what ISLAM really is, and what ISLAM promotes in the world.

.

I know that it can be a difficult concept for many to grasp, .....but i am still promoting the proposition that, .....a person who insists that he is a moslem, ....is, a moslem.

AND AGAIN;
A moslem, is a moslem.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAM = = ?????????

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"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

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"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

.

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

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"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

Yeah read that. Sounds identical to the Drone program except that proof is not required, just suspicion that they are bad people.

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Reply #8 - Jan 5^th, 2016 at 1:16pm

random wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:28am:

Yeah read that. Sounds identical to the Drone program except that proof is not required, just suspicion that they are bad people.

random,

You say, that you are not convinced, that moslems are 'bad' people ???

Even though....

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Yadda wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:12pm:

........I know that it can be a difficult concept for many to grasp, .....but i am still promoting the proposition that, .....a person who insists that he is a moslem, ....is, a moslem.

AND AGAIN;
A moslem, is a moslem.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAM = = ?????????

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"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

.

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

.

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

.

random wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:28am:

Yeah read that. Sounds identical to the Drone program except that proof is not required, just suspicion that they are bad people.

random,

You say, that you are not convinced, that moslems are 'bad' people ???

Even though....

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0
Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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Reply #9 - Jan 5^th, 2016 at 1:37pm

random wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:28am:

Yeah read that. Sounds identical to the Drone program except that proof is not required, just suspicion that they are bad people.

Many people seem to be prepared to accept everything moslems tell us [about themselves, and about ISLAM].

And what moslems tell us [what moslems will tell ANYONE, who will listen], is to insist that ISLAM is a tolerant and peaceful religion, AND, that the moslem [being a follower of ISLAM!] is a virtuous person.

It is a deceit.

In this 'connected' information age, ....any person who is not an imbecile, could easily discover that fact.

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IMAGE...

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

Google;
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

Quote:

July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself:

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them"
(Qur'an 3:28).

In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

Google

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You are an Australian, and you are a 'disbeliever', ...and you think that you have moslem friends ?

Well, i have a bridge that i want to sell to you.

Its really, really cheap.

Its a bargain!

Quote:

"Peace summarises everything in Islam, because it means

submitting your will to God,

so you acquire peace through it," he said.

"When I'm following its [i.e. ISLAM's] teachings,

I know that my own actions are in line with what my creator wants,

and hence I am at peace with myself, [with] my community and the rest of the world."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/darwins-muslim-community-tackles-discrimin...

IMAGE....

Quote:

"Mr Yunus has been encouraging peaceful community bridging since starting his post as Darwin's Islamic leader in 2014."

- ABC news report - 2015-01-19

"Peace summarises everything in Islam..."

- Mr Yunus

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Reply #11 - Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:12pm

random wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

The drone program doesn't require proof of guilt, it just requires suspicion.

Then summary execution follows if they are lucky.

If unlucky they will just have a limb blown off, or burned and take a few days to die.

random,

Guilt ?

Every moslem, is a moslem.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1418244166/15#15
Quote:

You mean that we [infidels, on OzPol] are guilty of 'stereotyping' members of the Australian mainstream moslem community!!!!

Shock horror!!!!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....moslems!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....ISLAM [and with ISLAM's laws and tenets] !

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

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random,

PROPOSITION;
If there were no moslems [and no 'moslem community'] in the UK, then the UK wouldn't have 'a moslem problem'.

Ditto for;
France,
Denmark,
Belgium,
Germany,
Sweden,
Spain,
Italy,
Australia,
et al.

And i doubt that there would be a 'drone program'.

You are complaining about an 'indiscriminate' drone program, killing innocent moslems ???

My contention is, that if there were no moslems [and no 'moslem community'] in the West, ....then there probably would not be 'a drone program' today.

This individual is a prime example of why there is a drone program.

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IMAGE....

Quote:

Islamic State video shows murder of five 'British spies'
Terror group publishes execution video as it threatens UK with new terror attacks and calls David Cameron an 'imbecile'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/12079126/Islamic-Stat...

Eventually, Western nations are going to have to acknowledge, ....that the precepts which 1/ moslems [and their community] promote, and, 2/ a pluralistic society, .......are both based upon 'realities' which are absolutely hostile and absolutely incompatible to each other.

And the sooner the people of Western nations come to that realisation, the better, imo.

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Quote:

"Peace summarises everything in Islam, because it means

submitting your will to God,

so you acquire peace through it," he said.

"When I'm following its [i.e. ISLAM's] teachings,

I know that my own actions are in line with what my creator wants,

and hence I am at peace with myself, [with] my community and the rest of the world."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/darwins-muslim-community-tackles-discrimin...

IMAGE....

Quote:

"Mr Yunus has been encouraging peaceful community bridging since starting his post as Darwin's Islamic leader in 2014."

- ABC news report - 2015-01-19

"Peace summarises everything in Islam..."

- Mr Yunus

Hey Mr Yunus!!!!!!! .....Peace summarises everything in Islam!!!

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"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

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Reply #12 - Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:31pm

Dear Yadda,

once again - your posts are too long to read.

I have a feeling that I've seen it all before.

The fact is that most Muslims don't believe all that sharia law nonsense in their Koran -
any more than Christians believe or follow the laws of the old testament.

Get with the times.

forgiven

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Reply #13 - Jan 6^th, 2016 at 6:28am

On one side we have people killing 'suspects' by remote control. Sitting in Nevada in an air-conditioned container, executing people in Afghanistan with no trial. No proof of guilt.

As a result, there are people who are so terrorised by drone strikes and the invasion of their countries that they resort to desperate measures, like suicide bombing, they don't have drones.

Now it must take some serious commitment to blow yourself up, compared to sitting in the airconditioning, but the media labels the bombers as 'cowards'. That "it was a cowardly attack" etc. In thinking about this I know which one looks more cowardly to me.

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Reply #14 - Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:31pm:

Dear Yadda,

once again - your posts are too long to read.

I know.

Its a problem.

And yes, i am a serial offender!

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:31pm:

The fact is that most Muslims don't believe all that sharia law nonsense in their Koran -
any more than Christians believe or follow the laws of the old testament.

Get with the times.

forgiven

namaste

bobby,

You are mistaken.

Moslems are LYING to you,

....and moslems are misrepresenting ISLAM to you and to me.

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bobby,

Get with the times.

Every moslem, is a moslem.

bobby,

Every moslem, is a moslem.

bobby,

Every moslem, is a moslem.

bobby,

Every moslem, is a moslem.

bobby,

Every moslem, is a moslem.

Got it yet ??????

bobby,

ISLAM itself, is the authority in this matter.

And ISLAM itself, establishes that;

Every moslem, is a moslem.

Or, he is an infidel [i.e. not a moslem] !

as per.....

Quote:

"ISLAM and Sharia law are inseparable.......

And the moslem that says he is against Sharia law, ....is not a moslem. It is impossible."

The text above, transcribed from -------------- > goto 2m 21s

Belgistan? Sharia Showdown Looms in Brussels

[circa 2012]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNIaIoZKAE

bobby,

Yadda wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:12pm:

........I know that it can be a difficult concept for many to grasp, .....but i am still promoting the proposition that, .....a person who insists that he is a moslem, ....is, a moslem.

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bobby,

The Koran is an inerrant manuscript.

Ask any devout moslem.

And so its [the Koran's] authority over the conduct of the moslem is absolute!

The Koran [Allah!] itself declares that if a moslem abandons the tenets of his faith, or, if he associates with [i.e. 'befriends'] disbelievers, he becomes a wrongdoer.

i.e.
He becomes a person who has no right to call himself a moslem.

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed..........they ['believers'] can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction."
Koran 4.64, 65

"O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger, and make not vain your deeds!"
Koran 47:33

bobby,

I've done it again!!!!!

Another long, long post!!

And i had such good intentions, when i began this post!

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