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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18101 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform Reply #90 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:48pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:45pm: you're not sure? You're the one with original 'probably'. makes you 'probably' idiotic.
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Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform
Reply #91 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:48pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 2:22pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 2:16pm:

Everybody applauds the pursuit of crooks - but please - let's keep with the realities... the 'royal commission' was a waste of money better spent on regulatory and investigatory bodies, and has a clear political intention.

So anything bad occurring to the left leaning parties will be deemed as "political intention"

left leaning parties? I thought the RC was looking at unions, not at the ALP? What was it you all said about it not being a witch hunt Grin

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Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform
Reply #92 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:49pm

lee wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:45pm:

you're not sure?

You're the one with original 'probably'.

makes you 'probably' idiotic.

yes, I originally said probably because, believe it or not, I don't keep a record of what YOU said .... you on the other hand should know, shouldn't you?

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Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform
Reply #93 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:50pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:47pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 7:03am:

Mr Turnbull may need to worry more about workers response than Mr Shorten's...

you mean the 15% of the workforce that is in a union? that samr group of people who ahve seen how their money has been embezzled and spent on whores?

the more likely outcome is that it will increase the liberals vote.

you are seriously deluded

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18101 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform Reply #94 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:50pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:48pm: eft leaning parties? I thought the RC was looking at unions, not at the ALP? What was it you all said about it not being a witch hunt Grin Grin Grin Grin You mean unions don't lean left and right, but remain uniformly upright? Unions are parties too.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18101 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform Reply #95 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:51pm John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:49pm: yes, I originally said probably because, believe it or not, I don't keep a record of what YOU said .... you on the other hand should know, shouldn't you? you're right. You are definitely idiotic.
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Reply #96 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:52pm

Bam wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Or these?

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Recommendation 69
A new provision be inserted into Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) which requires permit holders to complete approved right of entry training annually in relation to the rights and responsibilities of permit holder. This recommendation is reflected in the model legislative provisions in Appendix 1 to Volume 5 of the Report.

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Recommendation 71
Section 510 of the Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) be amended so that it requires a right of entry permit to be suspended or revoked by the Fair Work Commission if:
(a)
an official has failed to complete approved training; or
(b)
a new permit qualification matter has arisen which means the official is no longer a fit and proper person.

Training once may be reasonable, but annual training? That's a bloody joke. That's more frequent than first-aid refresher courses that are required every two years because people's lives could be at risk. Annual training is like killing a spider with a rocket launcher. It's massive overkill. It is completely unnecessary and adds unreasonable costs. Why is annual training being considered? For one reason only - to put as many barriers to unions doing their work as the government think they can get away with.

It's simply over-regulation.

the car workers union demanded 6 additional weeks PER YEAR for training for its union organisers. i think the CFMEU will have to time to complete the annual 3 hour training course.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75369 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform Reply #97 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:54pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:52pm: the car workers union demanded 6 additional weeks PER YEAR for training for its union organisers. you never heard of an ambit claim you idiot?
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Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform
Reply #98 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:55pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 1:39am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 11:36pm:

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On Thursday Mr Shorten, who is on leave and did not front the media on Wednesday, tweeted: "If Mr Turnbull and his Liberals want to fight an election on industrial relations, bring it on. We won on WorkChoices & we'll win again."

He followed by adding: "Labor will always fight for workers, decent pay & conditions. Mr Turnbull & his Liberals will fight for big business & to cut penalty rates." Sad

The Royal Commission was about UNION CORRUPTION

Shorten tried to change the topic by saying INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS

Shorten actually thinks voters are too stupid to see this childish trick

The royal commission was to look into the possibility of union corruption - in which endeavour it has signally failed.

It was not to 'about union corruption' - but rather to find out if there was any.. and the results are not worth the paper it is written on.

failed to find corruption??? you really are quite the idiot at times and then there are moments like this when much bigger, longer and banned words applied

you are one stupid fool.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform Reply #99 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:58pm Kat wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:39am: We need unions now more than ever. Don't believe in unions? Then you don't deserve a job. you have the union to thank for your 4hr/wk bike assembly job. that says it all.
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Reply #100 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:00pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 6:39am:

We need unions now more than ever.

Don't believe in unions?

Then you don't deserve a job.

you have the union to thank for your 4hr/wk bike assembly job.

that says it all.

At least he has a job fool!

Your only job is playing with your sausage! Grin

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Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform
Reply #101 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:03pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:47pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 7:03am:

Mr Turnbull may need to worry more about workers response than Mr Shorten's...

you mean the 15% of the workforce that is in a union? that samr group of people who ahve seen how their money has been embezzled and spent on whores?

the more likely outcome is that it will increase the liberals vote.

you are seriously deluded

thats your area of experience. or did you miss the fact that the liberals have a landslide win in front of them on current polling? the union debate will only increase the margin.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform
Reply #102 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:03pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:52pm:

the car workers union demanded 6 additional weeks PER YEAR for training for its union organisers.

you never heard of an ambit claim you idiot?

it wasnt an AMBIT CLAIM, FOOL. they have had it for many years.

damn you are stupid.

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Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform
Reply #103 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:55pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 1:39am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 11:36pm:

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On Thursday Mr Shorten, who is on leave and did not front the media on Wednesday, tweeted: "If Mr Turnbull and his Liberals want to fight an election on industrial relations, bring it on. We won on WorkChoices & we'll win again."

He followed by adding: "Labor will always fight for workers, decent pay & conditions. Mr Turnbull & his Liberals will fight for big business & to cut penalty rates." Sad

The Royal Commission was about UNION CORRUPTION

Shorten tried to change the topic by saying INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS

Shorten actually thinks voters are too stupid to see this childish trick

The royal commission was to look into the possibility of union corruption - in which endeavour it has signally failed.

It was not to 'about union corruption' - but rather to find out if there was any.. and the results are not worth the paper it is written on.

failed to find corruption??? you really are quite the idiot at times and then there are moments like this when much bigger, longer and banned words applied

you are one stupid fool.

they are such an embarrassment.. their heads up their bums so far as far as the UNIONS are concerned...they just keep on pretending.. they are in fact a branch of the Mother Teresa foundation.. Grin

scary stuff.

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Re: Bill Shorten Responded To Turnbulls Union Reform
Reply #104 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:52pm:

the car workers union demanded 6 additional weeks PER YEAR for training for its union organisers.

you never heard of an ambit claim you idiot?

it wasnt an AMBIT CLAIM, FOOL. they have had it for many years.

damn you are stupid.

or (pay attention now) perhaps I'm just so used to your making bullsh1t claims that no one believes you anymore?

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