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China builds new aircraft carrier to confront US
Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:10am
 
China builds new aircraft carrier in show of strength to Washington


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China intends to beef up its maritime presence by building a second aircraft carrier. Beijing wants to exert its presence in the South China Sea, after complaining of “provocations” from the US, as well as defending its interests in the region.
Little is known about China’s aircraft carrier program, however a spokesman for the Defense Ministry, Yang Yujun, said the ship had been designed in China and was being built in the port of Dalian.
"China has a long coastline and a vast maritime area under our jurisdiction. To safeguard our maritime sovereignty, interests and rights is the sacred mission of the Chinese armed forces," Yang said, as cited by Reuters.

The Defense Ministry spokesman added that the aircraft carrier will be able to operate J-15 fighter jets and will also have a ski-jump take-off. China’s only other aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, was purchased from Ukraine in 1998 before being refitted in China.

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China has been looking to increase its maritime defense capabilities, as it exerts its claims in the South China Sea.

"The US has many aircraft carriers that are traveling all over the place in the South China Sea, which have caused problems for us. Having a second aircraft carrier reduces the pressure on us. It will keep us from being bullied,” a Shanghai-based naval expert, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the matter, told Reuters.

Earlier this month the Chinese Navy commissioned its third Type 052D Kunming-class destroyer, ‘Hefei’, armed with surface-to-surface missiles as its primary assault weapon. Beijing says it plans to build at least 10 warships, while they will be based at the naval complex in Sanya on the island of Hainan.

“My men have familiarized themselves with the advanced equipment and weapons [onboard the ship]. In the near future, we will focus on training, aiming to make the ship become fully operational within a short period,” Hefei’s captain, Commander Zhao Yanquan, told China Daily on December 14.

Two weeks ago, China filed a complaint with the Pentagon after a US nuclear-capable B-52 bomber flew over a man-made island in the South China Sea that China claims gives it sovereignty over the surrounding waters. Beijing said the move was a “provocation.”

It urged the United States "to immediately adopt measures to put an end to such kind of dangerous actions, in order not to impact the two countries' military relations,” the Defense Ministry said in a statement.

Over the past few years China has reclaimed several islands in the South China Sea and built infrastructure on them capable of supporting combat missions of the Chinese Air Force. Beijing insists that the effort is primarily civilian and is meant to make the South China Sea, the region with some of the heaviest maritime traffic in the world, most of it China-bound, a safer place.

The US rejects Beijing's claim and occasionally sends its warplanes and warships through the 12 nautical mile area around the artificial islands, which China sees as its exclusive zone. In late October, the US guided missile destroyer USS Lassen sailed close to Subi Reef with one such mission, provoking an angry rebuke from China.
The South China Sea is believed to have massive deposits of oil and gas, while around $5 trillion of shipping trade passes through the area per year.

https://www.rt.com/news/327562-china-build-aircraft-carrier/
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Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 9:04am
 
Nice little carrier.........hope it doesn't go rusty on them.  Grin
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Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 9:32am
 
Does China have any aircraft that can take off and land on these carriers?

Grin Cheesy Wink
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A nation such as China possessing one, or two [or more] aircraft carriers, is one thing.

Having the ability and skill-set to efficiently [and safely!] launch and retrieve heavily armed aircraft off its deck, is something else altogether.

Especially when launching and retrieving heavily armed aircraft off an aircraft carrier deck, under the added stress of actual combat conditions.

Does China and its navy personnel already have the ability [i.e. the considerable skill set required] to safely and efficiently do such things ?


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Reply #4 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:19pm
 
It's been totally financed by Western governments and businesses making sure that their citizens have little choice but to buy EVERYTHING as 'Made in China'.

Lock, stock, and barrel - that aircraft-carrier is our baby. We built it from our own wallets, and purses, and Credit Cards ~ and Australia sent them the iron ore at little more than cost prices.





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Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 4:54pm:
A nation such as China possessing one, or two [or more] aircraft carriers, is one thing.

Having the ability and skill-set to efficiently [and safely!] launch and retrieve heavily armed aircraft off its deck, is something else altogether.

Especially when launching and retrieving heavily armed aircraft off an aircraft carrier deck, under the added stress of actual combat conditions.

Does China and its navy personnel already have the ability [i.e. the considerable skill set required] to safely and efficiently do such things ?


Good question.
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Reply #6 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:23pm
 
I wonder how many small dicked Chinese could fit on that ship?
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Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 4:54pm:
Does China and its navy personnel already have the ability [i.e. the considerable skill set required] to safely and efficiently do such things ?

Even if they don't, they'll be on a sharper learning curve than those who gained the technology before them. Learning from other's mistakes and all.

But such vessels are old technology. Useful in cold engagements. There are new technologies coming along, that counter such high investment, centralised platforms. Sea drones are going to be a bitch for manned vessels.
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Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 4:54pm:
A nation such as China possessing one, or two [or more] aircraft carriers, is one thing.

Having the ability and skill-set to efficiently [and safely!] launch and retrieve heavily armed aircraft off its deck, is something else altogether.

Especially when launching and retrieving heavily armed aircraft off an aircraft carrier deck, under the added stress of actual combat conditions.

Does China and its navy personnel already have the ability [i.e. the considerable skill set required] to safely and efficiently do such things ?




A bit of practice? How did the US do it, the Japanese, the Brits and Ruskies? Hell, even we used to own them.

Not looking forward to a more militarised and fractured Asia-Pacific.

edit: Thanks for a post that didn't sound like a witch doctor ooga boogaring. You might get more responses if you keep that up.
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Reply #9 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:30pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 9:04am:
Nice little carrier.........hope it doesn't go rusty on them.  Grin



it'll probably break down as soon as the warranty runs out Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #10 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:32pm
 
boxy wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 6:57pm:
But such vessels are old technology



agree, with the increasing range and accuracy of modern missiles and the continuing inprovements in drones, this thing is obsolete before it even starts ....

they probably had the same advisor that Abbott had for the NBN
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Reply #11 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:34pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 7:53pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 4:54pm:
A nation such as China possessing one, or two [or more] aircraft carriers, is one thing.

Having the ability and skill-set to efficiently [and safely!] launch and retrieve heavily armed aircraft off its deck, is something else altogether.

Especially when launching and retrieving heavily armed aircraft off an aircraft carrier deck, under the added stress of actual combat conditions.

Does China and its navy personnel already have the ability [i.e. the considerable skill set required] to safely and efficiently do such things ?




A bit of practice? How did the US do it, the Japanese, the Brits and Ruskies? Hell, even we used to own them.

Not looking forward to a more militarised and fractured Asia-Pacific.

edit: Thanks for a post that didn't sound like a witch doctor ooga boogaring. You might get more responses if you keep that up.


It is funny how some people reckon that one of the World's largest economies is populated by dumb people.  Or even the World's weakest economy.....gee....just how dumb must they be.  'Tinted brains' I suppose.
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In a stand-up fight, I'd give the Chinese carriers one strike.... and out....
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Aussie wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:34pm:
Setanta wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 7:53pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 4:54pm:
A nation such as China possessing one, or two [or more] aircraft carriers, is one thing.

Having the ability and skill-set to efficiently [and safely!] launch and retrieve heavily armed aircraft off its deck, is something else altogether.

Especially when launching and retrieving heavily armed aircraft off an aircraft carrier deck, under the added stress of actual combat conditions.

Does China and its navy personnel already have the ability [i.e. the considerable skill set required] to safely and efficiently do such things ?




A bit of practice? How did the US do it, the Japanese, the Brits and Ruskies? Hell, even we used to own them.

Not looking forward to a more militarised and fractured Asia-Pacific.

edit: Thanks for a post that didn't sound like a witch doctor ooga boogaring. You might get more responses if you keep that up.


It is funny how some people reckon that one of the World's largest economies is populated by dumb people.  Or even the World's weakest economy.....gee....just how dumb must they be.  'Tinted brains' I suppose.



When I worked security at your airports, one of the guys turned to me and said that the Chinese could never organise an invasion since they couldn't even organise a queue for processing to get in here....

I think he had a point.....

Ha ha.. how you drive heroic struggle flying carrier ship when no drive car without hit five pedestrians, honourable seven bumper bars and run on gutter?  ha ha - you Numbah Ten!
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