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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Where is the vision? Reply #15 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 11:32am Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:57am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:48am: Abolish the GST! http://p9.storage.canalblog.com/96/31/77911/41170956.gif .....ok, but tax everyone the same amount, we are a democracy afterall you just said we were an ochlocracy
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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85588 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Where is the vision? Reply #16 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 12:43pm .. besides, swag - even at the highest rate of personal income tax.. surely you're still better off than Joe Bloggotovski the ship kicker?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75379 Gender:	Re: Where is the vision? Reply #17 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:36pm Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:34am: John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 9:25am: http://freelancechristianitydotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/head_up_ass_liber... Did you find what you were looking for in there John? even when it's spelt out for you, you still can't see it. What hope is there for you?
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Reply #18 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:37pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:57am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:48am:

Abolish the GST! http://p9.storage.canalblog.com/96/31/77911/41170956.gif

.....ok, but tax everyone the same amount, we are a democracy afterall

when did taxing everyone the same amount become a pre-requisite to becoming a democracy?

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #19 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 8:53pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 4:37pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:57am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 10:48am:

Abolish the GST! http://p9.storage.canalblog.com/96/31/77911/41170956.gif

.....ok, but tax everyone the same amount, we are a democracy afterall

when did taxing everyone the same amount become a pre-requisite to becoming a democracy?

....for about 2500 years or so.

About the time it takes a public servant to make a decision... Cheesy

Anything else is not a democracy.....

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75379 Gender:	Re: Where is the vision? Reply #20 - Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 9:57pm Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 8:53pm: ....for about 2500 years or so. where was that? Narnia?
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Where is the vision? Reply #21 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 9:44am John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 9:57pm: Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 8:53pm: ....for about 2500 years or so. where was that? Narnia? Swagarnia....
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Reply #22 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 9:58am

Its time wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 9:48am:

cods wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 9:37am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 7:43am:

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 1:13am:

We all know what a great PM you'd make, Aussie.
Embarrassed

Well he has passed the first selection criteria.

Must be a failed Lawyer or Union Hack.

And the second criteria:

Must be a know all on all subjects ...ie. Taxi Driver

wonder what Clive has done to warrant a no faith vote from numpty????.......

what has he done anyone know????....

he is doing a shortarse by becoming invisible

at least shortarse gets attention by crashing his mums car.....what has CLive done????...

has Qld Nickel come good yet?..

surely he can see a future for OZ....maybe dinosaurs... roaming the outback.......

what an attraction that would be...

Probably hanging his head in shame after playing his part in abolishing CT that costs families about 150 bucks a year only to see the Libs wanting to bring a GST in to replace the revenue stream they killed, because we have a spending problem ..... not a revenue problem, that's why we need a GST rise Roll Eyes

, drugs r bad right tards drugs r bad mmmmmk Sad

oh really what a rant.. never mind..

I think he could be trying to save his empire.. the one he built on robbing Peter to pay Paul...only the CHineses woke up too soon...

it couldnt happen to a nicer bloke...I thought you lefties liked seeing tall poppies fall??..

where do you think TAXES should rise then supp... you seem to have more knowledge on this subject than most.....have you worked in treasury?..

I am sure if there was NO GST we would have something else in place of it... is that what you would prefer????

I find it ok to criticise what other do or say.. but at least come up with an alternative..

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Reply #23 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 10:28am

The carbon tax was just a defacto GST anyway. Extra business costs equate to inflated prices on goods and services passed on to the consumer eventually anyway.

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 9:58am:

I am sure if there was NO GST we would have something else in place of it... is that what you would prefer????

They prefer debt.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Where is the vision? Reply #24 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 10:29am Libs and Labs are past their use-by date, it's just that no one realizes it yet. Who will be the first lemming to fall off the cliff if we don't wake up in time?
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Reply #25 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 10:31am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 10:29am:

Libs and Labs are past their use-by date, it's just that no one realizes it yet. Who will be the first lemming to fall off the cliff if we don't wake up in time?

that what some say... what do you suggest in their place???...

will you run?..will you start a party that will fix everything??

lets hear about it...

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Reply #26 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 1:53pm

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 10:31am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 10:29am:

Libs and Labs are past their use-by date, it's just that no one realizes it yet. Who will be the first lemming to fall off the cliff if we don't wake up in time?

that what some say... what do you suggest in their place???...

will you run?..will you start a party that will fix everything??

lets hear about it...

The Grappler Party, of course - only we have the insight, courage, credentials and popular support to make the genuinely hard decisions for the benefit of all.

As Your Prime President I will accept the equivalent of a backbencher's pay... and all my ministers etc will take an equivalent reduction.. there will be no more feather bedding....

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Reply #27 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:11pm

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 10:31am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 10:29am:

Libs and Labs are past their use-by date, it's just that no one realizes it yet. Who will be the first lemming to fall off the cliff if we don't wake up in time?

that what some say... what do you suggest in their place???...

will you run?..will you start a party that will fix everything??

lets hear about it...

........with a nick like his, it'd be the ABC party.... Cheesy

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Reply #28 - Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:29pm

Maybe just send the polies a copy of Trumps book "Crippled America" Cheesy

LOL

Quote:

Donald Trump will outline how a crippled America could be restored to greatness.It’s time to bring America back to its rightful owners—the American people.

I’m not going to play the same game politicians have been playing for decades—all talk, no action, while special interests and lobbyists dictate our laws. I am shaking up the establishment on both sides of the political aisle because I can’t be bought. I want to bring America back, to make it great and prosperous again, and to be sure we are respected by our allies and feared by our adversaries.

It’s time for action. Americans are fed up with politics as usual. And they should be! In this book, I outline my vision to make America great again, including: how to fix our failing economy; how to reform health care so it is more efficient, cost-effective, and doesn’t alienate both doctors and patients; how to rebuild our military and start winning wars—instead of watching our enemies take over—while keeping our promises to our great veterans; how to ensure that our education system offers the resources that allow our students to compete internationally, so tomorrow’s jobseekers have the tools they need to succeed; and how to immediately bring jobs back to America by closing our doors to illegal immigrants, and pressuring businesses to produce their goods at home.

This book is my blueprint for how to Make America Great Again. It’s not hard. We just need someone with the courage to say what needs to be said. We won’t find that in Washington, DC.

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Reply #29 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 1:34pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2016 at 2:11pm:

........with a nick like his, it'd be the ABC party

lol Glad you mentioned it Swag

"Bias" in my ID is a reference to the way the Feast and Famine Variable is plotted. Ironically though, absolute impartiality is essential to assess the direction of the plot line as it's being plotted, the Variable is plotted using the bias's of everyone else - so watch out ! I can plot your variable just by reading your posts

For a person or community to have a well balanced Feast and Famine Variable, there must be close to an equal amount of both feast bias and famine bias, anything else, you could be in big trouble

The Variable is very handy to check the bias of the media and political parties, Murdoch is an offender and getting worse, while the Libs and Labs are falling into their own trap of "becoming one" but pretending to be different to one another , it's a big mistake.

The Libs and Labs demise will be because they don't understand the how the Variable works. Just distributing wealth is not enough for balanced feast and famine, they think it is, but it's not, there's a hell of a lot more to it than that I've learned by plotting the Variable.

A healthy mind has a healthy feast and famine balance and the Libs and Labs are not quite congruent in that respect with the populace. The length of time they've occupied Parliament, in spite of elections, means they are automatically going into perpetual feast and the laws of nature require a change in thinking after a certain period of time to maintain healthy feast and famine balance. Their time is almost up, if not up now.

What we need to work towards is a smooth transition from the Lib Lab era to the next era, whatever it will be, probably a republic with a new type of balanced politics, not necessarily one of power and competition

Examples of how hard the Variable can bite ....
Mr Hitler and Mr Tojo and Co found out how the Variable works, too late for them of course, but if anyone wants to afford all the feast to themselves, then they'll have to accept that the "slaves" won't and definitely should not accept all the famine. Things can become very difficult when that happens

The "2012" in my ID is nothing more than the year in which the 13th Bak'tun ended in the Mayan calendar. Not the end of the world but a new consciousness started apparently. Still waiting for it but interested in it just the same

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