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Re: Pacific Islander Coward Punch On Innocent Boy
Reply #420 - Jan 6^th, 2016 at 8:28pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 6:57pm:

ian wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 3:23pm:

ian wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 3:16pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

ian wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:

I think you've worked in law as much as I've worked in porn. Big fat zilch. Just a trumped up net hero who just can't get over the fact that people pay more attention to a poof like Alan Jones or a fascist like Andrew Bolt that an undiscovered genius cab driver from the Gold Coast

Yes. im no lawyer, but Ive been in enough courtrooms to find "Aussies" lack of knowledge of basic law curious.

Curious?

It's a shame and a disgrace.

It also shows his utter contempt and disdain for his online peers.

I dont care that much. Seems to be an ego thing for these people, substituting for life experience they never had. Greggarys another one, knows everything about everything, thats what he learnt from 40 years sitting behind a desk . Come across many, many people like that in real life too. Just have a bit of a smile to myself. Thats one thing the internets done for these people, they can fabricate whatever fantasy life they want.

And your fantasy is that there really cannot possibly be people here who are what they say they are. Must be a 'chip on the shoulder' thing.

I dont need a fantasy, thats the difference between you and me.

There are more differences I'm afraid lmao Grin

You'll discover what they are just like the rest of us did.

Ive pretty much got his personality type pegged. His intellect is a bit lacking for me to engage with him too much.

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Re: Pacific Islander Coward Punch On Innocent Boy
Reply #421 - Jan 6^th, 2016 at 8:38pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

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people can claim anything. the truth or otherwise is usually revealed by what they write and how they write it. you display a chronic ignorance of the law and you logical skills and writing are dreadful. There is no chance you were ever a lawyer or if you were you were disbarred early on due to gross negilgence.

I can only imagine how many successful lawyers retire to go and drive a taxis for years on end.

How come you have a problem with facts. Do you feel threatened that I am a retired Lawyer who then bought Cabs, and even drives them occasionally?

The question is not whether you are a retired lawyer but why it means so much to you that you must convince us, total strangers, of it.

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Re: Pacific Islander Coward Punch On Innocent Boy
Reply #422 - Jan 6^th, 2016 at 8:55pm

ian wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

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people can claim anything. the truth or otherwise is usually revealed by what they write and how they write it. you display a chronic ignorance of the law and you logical skills and writing are dreadful. There is no chance you were ever a lawyer or if you were you were disbarred early on due to gross negilgence.

I can only imagine how many successful lawyers retire to go and drive a taxis for years on end.

How come you have a problem with facts. Do you feel threatened that I am a retired Lawyer who then bought Cabs, and even drives them occasionally?

The question is not whether you are a retired lawyer but why it means so much to you that you must convince us, total strangers, of it.

I could not care less if people accept it as truth or not. But when I am told I am fantasising by complete ignorants, then I'll point that out.

It does not matter how many or few disbelieve what I say I am. The egg (i.e ~ the fantasy) is never on my face, and I'll always point that out.

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Re: Pacific Islander Coward Punch On Innocent Boy
Reply #423 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:06am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

boxy wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:

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So, you'll be glad that the apparent culprits are in police custody, and will face the courts.

Very glad that at least they'll get some justice.

We'll see what the evidence says. It's a bad situation for all involved, so a no win situation.

Correct - but what can we learn from it?

Are the alleged offenders guilty of previous violent crimes?

the fact is... did they INTEND TO KILL HIM???...

when you kill someone its all about the INtent....

beyond a shadow of doubt...

and I dont think that is the case.....it will be unlawful death...after all its the pavement that killed him... not the blow...

this is only part of the tragic outcome, a life has gone...but many lives are ruined....and some will never recover........all because of disregard for another human being.... Sad

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Reply #424 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:21am

Aussie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 5:23pm:

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 5:15pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 3:16pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

ian wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:

I think you've worked in law as much as I've worked in porn. Big fat zilch. Just a trumped up net hero who just can't get over the fact that people pay more attention to a poof like Alan Jones or a fascist like Andrew Bolt that an undiscovered genius cab driver from the Gold Coast

Yes. im no lawyer, but Ive been in enough courtrooms to find "Aussies" lack of knowledge of basic law curious.

Curious?

It's a shame and a disgrace.

It also shows his utter contempt and disdain for his online peers.

I dont care that much. Seems to be an ego thing for these people, substituting for life experience they never had. Greggarys another one, knows everything about everything, thats what he learnt from 40 years sitting behind a desk . Come across many, many people like that in real life too. Just have a bit of a smile to myself. Thats one thing the internets done for these people, they can fabricate whatever fantasy life they want.

Yep. Just ignore him and post over him.

He's not worth anything more than that.

but you dont IGNORE lisa....

your just as bad.....you feed his ego...

once again the thread turn into a thread about him......he loves it.

No feeding of ego required, cods. But, you are right. While you fawn over Lisa Jones (because she takes up your cause so that you take up hers.......sucky sucky sucky) she can always be relied upon to leap in on anything which might even be remotely 'anti Aussie.'

I had been ignoring Jones until yesterday/overnight when Hicks made it quite clear that she can abuse whomever she likes with impunity, but Monk....who called her a 'ditz' is still banned here......by Hicks.

monk is the old 'george'? well he is a fools fool so his loss is actually a good thing. he is also incredibly rude so no surprises there.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #425 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:23am

Aussie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

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people can claim anything. the truth or otherwise is usually revealed by what they write and how they write it. you display a chronic ignorance of the law and you logical skills and writing are dreadful. There is no chance you were ever a lawyer or if you were you were disbarred early on due to gross negilgence.

I can only imagine how many successful lawyers retire to go and drive a taxis for years on end.

How come you have a problem with facts. Do you feel threatened that I am a retired Lawyer who then bought Cabs, and even drives them occasionally?

you write and post like an ignorant buffoon. you were never a lawyer. typically they are bright and logical while you are neither.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #426 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:24am

Aussie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:19pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

Longy.....he was never a lawyer.

Just a bankie who was given a little golden handshake when he was shafted.

Unfortunately, he's never recovered from this reality.

Anyway.....speaking of reality....back to the topic.

And......your offering is, Lisa Jones....or are you all done just 'ignoring' and 'posting around me?'

Is there ever going to be a post from you which is about the topic other than '100% correct,' or 'could not have put it better myself?'

Dear Aussie - this thread is not about you or Lisa.

forgiven

namaste

Well, you don't call her on her crap. I've not either until today following the decision by Hicks to allow her abuse to go unsanctioned. Expect more of the same from me. I can dish it out with the best of them, and Jones is an amateur.

Dear Aussie,

it's best that you forgive & move on with your life.

Nah. I'm over the Mr Nice Guy with Jones now. She gets all barrels. I have never ever experienced such blatant abuse reported to a Moderator and.....nothing happens. That is just not right Bobby. No-one has any right to special protection even if they did have a very personal get together with Hicks.

You are quick to bring out the 'hang 'em high' stuff except when equally appalling 'conduct' is going on at Forum level, then ~ you become an apologist. Nah Bobby.

It is not right.

lol what a laugh... just another whining poster who can dish it out but not take it?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #427 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:37am

I can't post the link Cods, but I understand that following the death of the victim, the charge of grievous bodily harm was upgraded to this.(*)

The Bill inserts a new offence into the Queensland Criminal Code, *“Unlawful Striking Causing Death”*. This offence is separate to murder or manslaughter and prevents a person from relying on the accident defence.

Presently the law for accident requires an accused person to raise evidence of the accident but once this is done the prosecutor must disprove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused person intended that the event should occur or foresaw that event as a possible outcome or the Crown has to establish that an ordinary person in the position of the accused person would reasonably have foreseen the event as a possible outcome.

A jury when considering the event and making a determination should exclude possibilities that are no more than remote or speculative. If the defence is raised in a trial, the jury presently will be told that the evidence raises for their consideration the possibility that neither the defendant nor an ordinary person could reasonably have foreseen that the death would occur from the punch or strike delivered by the defendant.

The new offence of “Unlawful Striking Causing Death” specifically removes an accused person of relying on the accident defence. The explanatory notes which accompany the bill indicate that the new offence prevents a person from attempting to argue that “although the strike was deliberate and wilful, the death of the victim as an ‘accident’.”

The maximum penalty for this offence is life imprisonment. Unless the Court orders that the term of imprisonment be served as an intensive correction order or as a suspended sentence, the minimum amount of time that a person will spend in custody is either 80% of the person’s term of imprisonment or 15 years whichever is the lesser.

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Re: Pacific Islander Coward Punch On Innocent Boy
Reply #428 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:57am

Alinta wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:37am:

I can't post the link Cods, but I understand that following the death of the victim, the charge of grievous bodily harm was upgraded to this.(*)

The Bill inserts a new offence into the Queensland Criminal Code, *“Unlawful Striking Causing Death”*. This offence is separate to murder or manslaughter and prevents a person from relying on the accident defence.

Presently the law for accident requires an accused person to raise evidence of the accident but once this is done the prosecutor must disprove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused person intended that the event should occur or foresaw that event as a possible outcome or the Crown has to establish that an ordinary person in the position of the accused person would reasonably have foreseen the event as a possible outcome

it wouldnt be right to CLAIM they intended to kill the person..... but the fact is they did... and their actions brought that death about.....

its more than accidental death....like killing someone in a road accident...where all sorts of things are involved....striking someone is purely INTENTIONAL....you mean to HIT them and probably HURT them.......its violent in the extreme.....and should be treated as such......

when we use some word.. we take away the reality.......meaning a life has been stolen.... "Unlawful"...it demeans the reality.......

we call it manslaughter and fancy names..like Unlawful.....

how about a THUG using violence causing death......

lets call it what it is....a life stolen by some coward who thinks violence is ok...

they strike from behind...its bordering on murder.......its that close..

bugger what their intention was.......its the result that matters.

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Reply #429 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:38am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

you write and post like an ignorant buffoon. you were never a lawyer. typically they are bright and logical while you are neither.

Question to longweekend58:

"So youre ok with having a pm who wasnt democratically elected?"

Answer from longweekend58:

"he was... by caucus as per the constitution. simple really."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1452054155/8#8

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Re: Pacific Islander Coward Punch On Innocent Boy
Reply #430 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:40am

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:57am:

Alinta wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:37am:

I can't post the link Cods, but I understand that following the death of the victim, the charge of grievous bodily harm was upgraded to this.(*)

The Bill inserts a new offence into the Queensland Criminal Code, *“Unlawful Striking Causing Death”*. This offence is separate to murder or manslaughter and prevents a person from relying on the accident defence.

Presently the law for accident requires an accused person to raise evidence of the accident but once this is done the prosecutor must disprove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused person intended that the event should occur or foresaw that event as a possible outcome or the Crown has to establish that an ordinary person in the position of the accused person would reasonably have foreseen the event as a possible outcome

it wouldnt be right to CLAIM they intended to kill the person..... but the fact is they did... and their actions brought that death about.....

its more than accidental death....like killing someone in a road accident...where all sorts of things are involved....striking someone is purely INTENTIONAL....you mean to HIT them and probably HURT them.......its violent in the extreme.....and should be treated as such......

when we use some word.. we take away the reality.......meaning a life has been stolen.... "Unlawful"...it demeans the reality.......

we call it manslaughter and fancy names..like Unlawful.....

how about a THUG using violence causing death......

lets call it what it is....a life stolen by some coward who thinks violence is ok...

they strike from behind...its bordering on murder.......its that close..

bugger what their intention was.......its the result that matters.

Yes, hence.......

The new offence of “Unlawful Striking Causing Death” specifically removes an accused person of relying on the accident defence. The explanatory notes which accompany the bill indicate that the new offence prevents a person from attempting to argue that “although the strike was deliberate and wilful, the death of the victim as an ‘accident’.”

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Reply #432 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:38am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

you write and post like an ignorant buffoon. you were never a lawyer. typically they are bright and logical while you are neither.

Question to longweekend58:

"So youre ok with having a pm who wasnt democratically elected?"

Answer from longweekend58:

"he was... by caucus as per the constitution. simple really."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1452054155/8#8

the definition of 'buffoon' is not getting a single fact wrong.

this was my point about how so few people on here understand the nature of words and what they mean.

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Reply #433 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 11:56am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:38am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

you write and post like an ignorant buffoon. you were never a lawyer. typically they are bright and logical while you are neither.

Question to longweekend58:

"So youre ok with having a pm who wasnt democratically elected?"

Answer from longweekend58:

"he was... by caucus as per the constitution. simple really."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1452054155/8#8

the definition of 'buffoon' is not getting a single fact wrong.

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Reply #434 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 12:00pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:38am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

you write and post like an ignorant buffoon. you were never a lawyer. typically they are bright and logical while you are neither.

Question to longweekend58:

"So youre ok with having a pm who wasnt democratically elected?"

Answer from longweekend58:

"he was... by caucus as per the constitution. simple really."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1452054155/8#8

the definition of 'buffoon' is not getting a single fact wrong.

this was my point about how so few people on here understand the nature of words and what they mean.

You're good Melielongtime, as Karnal said...better than Hemmingway. You lecture us on how the PM is elected by caucus as per the Constitution and that crap is excused by you with a dismissive wave of your hand...it was just getting a simple fact wrong. Oh yeas....a simple fact concerning something as totally unimportant as how the PM is elected. Who is the ignoramus melielongtime? You or me?

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