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Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam ..
Reply #180 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 8:34pm

Yadda wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 10:36am:

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:00am:

You did not ask me what I think 'about' it. You ask me what I think it is. If you want to know what Yadda thinks, ask Yadda.

Do you agree with Yadda. on killing all Moslems?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Karnal,

That is a filthy lie/misrepresentation of my position [re moslems].

You full well, know that i have never suggested the "killing all moslems".

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1369252112/293#293
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1366970476/12#12
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8

This isn't about you Yadda.

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Reply #182 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 12:03am

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

Karnal,

That is a filthy lie/misrepresentation of my position [re moslems].

This isn't about you Yadda.

FD,

Because people like Karnal continue, to try to misrepresent my opinions/views here on OzPol, i feel that i have no option but re-state, and to continue to re-state my opinion/view [re moslems].

Clearly, i need to adopt a type of 'scatter gun' approach, and broadcast what my views [re moslems], really are.
....until everyone understands, plainly, what my my opinions/views [re moslems], really are.
....until there is no opportunity for people like Karnal to credibly misrepresent [here on OzPol], what my opinions/views [re moslems], really are.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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MOSLEMS ARE MONSTERS

Yadda said....
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All moslems are monsters in human form, imo.

How do i justify such an accusation ?

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By Robert Spencer on Jan 17, 2016 04:22 pm
Female al-Azhar prof: Allah allows Muslims to rape non-Muslim women

The seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur’an.
According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and […]

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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0
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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam .. Reply #183 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:32am freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:00am: You did not ask me what I think 'about' it. Thats exactly what I asked. Read it again. But now you know thats what I am asking that - could you answer it now? Are the Yadda's of this world and his views part of the problem here?
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Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam ..
Reply #184 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:39am

Yadda wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

That is a filthy lie/misrepresentation of my position [re moslems].

Is it a misrepresentation of your position that you think every single muslim is a latent, wannabe homicidal maniac?

Or is it a misrepresentation to say that you believe every single expression of peace and goodwill by a devout muslim must be (without exception) a filthy act of deceit done only for the most sinister of purposes?

If you could answer the questions succintly first before you go off with your crayons and pictures of men with funny foreheads - that would be super.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam ..
Reply #185 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 8:54am

Yadda wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 12:03am:

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

Karnal,

That is a filthy lie/misrepresentation of my position [re moslems].

This isn't about you Yadda.

FD,

Because people like Karnal continue, to try to misrepresent my opinions/views here on OzPol, i feel that i have no option but re-state, and to continue to re-state my opinion/view [re moslems].

Clearly, i need to adopt a type of 'scatter gun' approach, and broadcast what my views [re moslems], really are.
....until everyone understands, plainly, what my my opinions/views [re moslems], really are.
....until there is no opportunity for people like Karnal to credibly misrepresent [here on OzPol], what my opinions/views [re moslems], really are.

.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

.

MOSLEMS ARE MONSTERS

Yadda said....
Quote:

All moslems are monsters in human form, imo.

How do i justify such an accusation ?

-------->

Where is Tony-missing-in-action-Abbott ???
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421158879/6#6

Google;

muslim rape epidemic in europe

Google;

leftist feminists mute on muslim rape epidemic

Quote:

By Robert Spencer on Jan 17, 2016 04:22 pm
Female al-Azhar prof: Allah allows Muslims to rape non-Muslim women

The seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur’an.
According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and […]

Google

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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0
Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

Thanks for clarifying your opinions, Y. Much better.

Your solution, if I remember rightly, is for every Moslem to be rounded up and detained in the desert if they don't denounce Islam and their sinister prophet.

Do you support this view, FD?

When you don't answer, we'll assume you agree.

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Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam ..
Reply #186 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:01am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:39am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

That is a filthy lie/misrepresentation of my position [re moslems].

Is it a misrepresentation of your position that you think every single muslim is a latent, wannabe homicidal maniac?

My position is, that if a person insists that he is a moslem, ....then i am inclined to believe his affirmation, to that effect.

And the fact that ISLAM both sanctions and encourages [the utter hatred and then] the murder of persons who openly reject ISLAM, then it is a reasonable 'leap' [imo] to classify every moslem, as a latent, wannabe, homicidal maniac.

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polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:39am:

Or is it a misrepresentation to say that you believe every single expression of peace and goodwill by a devout muslim must be (without exception) a filthy act of deceit done only for the most sinister of purposes?

Yes. [i.e. 'every single expression of peace and goodwill by a devout muslim must be (without exception) a filthy act of deceit done only for the most sinister of purposes']

Always, forevermore, ....and 100 x, again yes!

Knowing what it is, that ISLAM sanctions and encourages [towards those who are not moslems], ......yes!

100 x, yes!

e.g.
"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

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A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

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we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

Quote:

July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself:

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them"
(Qur'an 3:28).

In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

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Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam ..
Reply #187 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:12am

Karnal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 8:54am:

Thanks for clarifying your opinions, Y. Much better.

Your solution, if I remember rightly, is for every Moslem to be rounded up and detained in the desert if they don't denounce Islam and their sinister prophet.

Do you support this view, FD?

When you don't answer, we'll assume you agree.

LOL !!!!!

I think 'it' is about you FD!

Karnal wants you to publicly 'nail your britches to the mast', ....so that you won't be able to 'climb down' from that position ....[i.e. so that gandalf and Karnal will have another 'stick', with which to beat you about the head, in public!].

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21567 ACT Gender:	Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam .. Reply #188 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:12am Take it easy Yadda! Your going a bit overboard there. What about Karnal he/she seems very sensible to me and I doubt he/she is a secret ISIS plotter hater of all christians jews etc!
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Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam ..
Reply #189 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:18am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:12am:

Take it easy Yadda!

Your going a bit overboard there.

What about Karnal he/she seems very sensible to me and I doubt he/she is a secret ISIS plotter hater of all christians jews etc!

Well Redneck, that is fantastic!

I am very happy for you, to express your opinion, ...here on this public forum.

Well done.

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Reply #190 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:40am

Yadda wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:12am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 8:54am:

Thanks for clarifying your opinions, Y. Much better.

Your solution, if I remember rightly, is for every Moslem to be rounded up and detained in the desert if they don't denounce Islam and their sinister prophet.

Do you support this view, FD?

When you don't answer, we'll assume you agree.

LOL !!!!!

I think 'it' is about you FD!

Karnal wants you to publicly 'nail your britches to the mast', ....so that you won't be able to 'climb down' from that position ....[i.e. so that gandalf and Karnal will have another 'stick', with which to beat you about the head, in public!].

You got it, Y. I must say though, I do think it's a bit mean of FD to distance himself from you like this.

Also, what happened to the idea of letting it all hang out? Is the new directive to keep your views private so no one can beat you about the head?

Have we entered the realm of squishy, spineless, evasive, yeah-but-no-but arse-covering?

I thought we were all here to discuss the truth about Islam.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95639 Gender:	Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam .. Reply #191 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:43am Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:12am: I doubt he/she is a secret ISIS plotter hater of all christians jews etc! Exactly. I'm a stupid, mendacious, spineless apologetic Pakistani Bastard. That's the official title, anyway. Feel free to call me a lying PB.
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Reply #192 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 10:37am

Yadda wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:18am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:12am:

Take it easy Yadda!

Your going a bit overboard there.

What about Karnal he/she seems very sensible to me and I doubt he/she is a secret ISIS plotter hater of all christians jews etc!

Well Redneck, that is fantastic!

I am very happy for you, to express your opinion, ...here on this public forum.

Well done.

Your welcome !

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21727 A cat with a view	Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam .. Reply #193 - Jan 25^th, 2016 at 5:39pm my response to post #191.... No contest. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451794801/191#191
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Re: Free speech is under threat from Islam ..
Reply #194 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 7:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:52pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:23pm:

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Its deceit. But does it make any difference when muslims come out and denounce such deceit?

Is it wrong to deceive the innocent Gandalf?

ooh you got me there FD - yes it is.

What about you - do you agree that in Yadda's book there is literally nothing a muslim can do that isn't sinister and/or deceitful?

Is Yadda's views that every single muslim is a "wannabe homicidal maniac" (his actual words) is maybe part of the problem here?

One thing we've learned over the past 9 years - FD will use every trick in the book to "criticize" those who want to take away the freedoms of decent white people everywhere.

But he'll encourage every call to take away the freedoms of dirty tinted Muslims and their apologists everywhere.

Does he believe it? You bet.

White Europeans are democratic. Tinted Arab Muslims are not.

Could tinted Arab Muslims be democratic IF THEY WANTED TO BE??

Yes.

Spot the snag, ya stupid PB.

Did anyone spot the snag?

That's right. The old boy says he's a white European.

Could tinted Arab Muslims be democratic IF THEY WANTED TO BE??

IF they wanted to be - that's the snag. That would have to override tribal and clannish. But abandoning clannish tribalism is an imperialist cultural imposition by the Great and Little Satans as well as the Zionist Entity, so it's not halal and will not do.

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