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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: ISIS raped her then killed her - deserved it? Reply #15 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:22am its an ugly story but at no age is a decision like they made anything other than inexcusably stupid. she didnt deserve her end. no one does. but she was a major contributor to it.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: ISIS raped her then killed her - deserved it? Reply #16 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:36am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:22am: she didnt deserve her end. no one does ... Amazing. Simply amazing.
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Reply #17 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:39am

Agnes wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 1:23am:

Yes it was a stupid thing to do but a kid of 17 is still a kid, they have frontal lobes not even fully formed at that age. As kids we all make/made mistakes- RIP to the poor little soul.

Agreed. She obviously didn't know what she was getting into or she wouldn't have tried to escape so many times.

Who knows what these recruitment videos promise young people?

Anyone wishing her end on her is every bit the monster that the pigs who raped and killed her are.

Deserve it? Disgusting.

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Reply #18 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:42am

mothra wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:39am:

Agnes wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 1:23am:

Yes it was a stupid thing to do but a kid of 17 is still a kid, they have frontal lobes not even fully formed at that age. As kids we all make/made mistakes- RIP to the poor little soul.

Agreed. She obviously didn't know what she was getting into or she wouldn't have tried to escape so many times.

Who knows what these recruitment videos promise young people?

Anyone wishing her end on her is every bit the monster that the pigs who raped and killed her are.

Deserve it? Disgusting.

with all the information out there about ISIS how is anyone so irredeemably stupid as to join them - especially teenage girls?

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Reply #19 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:46am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:42am:

mothra wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:39am:

Agnes wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 1:23am:

Yes it was a stupid thing to do but a kid of 17 is still a kid, they have frontal lobes not even fully formed at that age. As kids we all make/made mistakes- RIP to the poor little soul.

Agreed. She obviously didn't know what she was getting into or she wouldn't have tried to escape so many times.

Who knows what these recruitment videos promise young people?

Anyone wishing her end on her is every bit the monster that the pigs who raped and killed her are.

Deserve it? Disgusting.

with all the information out there about ISIS how is anyone so irredeemably stupid as to join them - especially teenage girls?

We don't know what the recruitment videos promised her. I suspect she was seduced by a very charming individual who promised her a great deal. She probably fell in love with him.

A stupid mistake but one that does not translate into her 'deserving' her end ... which is the premise of this thread and the argument of Herbie and Maqqa.

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Reply #20 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:31am

I have more sympathy for the little innocents which this girl must have known where being tortured and raped by her DAESH friends before she decided to join them, but later tired of her and decided to murder her. They didn’t knowingly involve themselves with these luatics, she did.

As they said:

“Don’t look for us. We will serve Allah and we will die for him.”

Seventeen year olds may act rashly at times but they are not children and if they can read, they know what these people do.

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Reply #21 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:44am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:22am:

its an ugly story but at no age is a decision like they made anything other than inexcusably stupid.

Inexcusably evil.

High Definition footage of the ISIS horrors have been in the media daily - and you can bet your house they had access to the internet in their own home in Austria ... with a lot more gory details than is shown on the TV news services.

Hopefully this bitch and all those others who think it's cute to deliver sadistic horrors to innocent people will rot in hell.

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Reply #23 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:50am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

mothra wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:39am:

Agreed. She obviously didn't know what she was getting into or she wouldn't have tried to escape so many times.

Ignorant nonsense.

She said she was willing to die for Allah. What part of that don't you understand?

Then why did she try to escape s many times Herbie?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: ISIS raped her then killed her - deserved it? Reply #24 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:57am 17 years old is still a child. Impressionable and vulnerable Herb. This people are pigs and cowards. These girls deserved none of that.
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Reply #25 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:59am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:57am:

17 years old is still a child.
Impressionable and vulnerable Herb.

This people are pigs and cowards. These girls deserved none of that.

You got that right. The sooner they are discussing semantics of theology with Allah the better. Mind you - our 'allies' the Saudis aren't a whole lot better:-

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/30475576/saudi-arabia-executes-47-including-cl...

Pair of young girls seeking to 'find a place' in life.... 'be' someone (Tracey Chapman).. feel a sense of belonging... be part of something bigger than self..... 'find validation'....

Better to wait at home in Austria for a nice man to come along..... boring but better....

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Reply #26 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:03am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:57am:

17 years old is still a child.
Impressionable and vulnerable Herb.

This people are pigs and cowards. These girls deserved none of that.

A teenager was exploited and used by ISIS before she was brutally murdered by them.

It's very good for other teenagers to see what is really going on.

Hopefully this incident will wake others up.

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Reply #27 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:05am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 1:05am:

“Don’t look for us. We will serve Allah and we will die for him.”

The girls allegedly flew to the Turkish capital Ankara and then into the southern Turkish region of Adana.

After that, their tracks were lost.

What's the problem ?

They served Allah and died for it !!

Two less muslim halfwits the world does not need Sad

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Reply #28 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:06am

I was actually chatting about the Sauds with my uncle over holiday period you know.
I've always been of the view that they were a horrible regime and we need them gone.

My uncle, whose lived out in the region for decades now, made the valid point of better the devil you know.
Look what's happened to Iraq post Saddam, Libya posts Gaddafi.
Egypt has only returned to order after Mubarak because General Sisi has clamped down.

He believes democracy isn't suited to these countries and the rule of fist is better suited.

I think he's probably right. As unpleasant as the House of Saud is, they keep order.

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Reply #29 - Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:07am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:57am:

17 years old is still a child.
Impressionable and vulnerable Herb.

This people are pigs and cowards. These girls deserved none of that.

ISIS is a product of your ilk hicks. The insatiable greed for oil has created this monster in the middle east and now you are pretending like you weren't part of it !!

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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